88 Queen St S | 44 fl | Proposed

[skyrise32]

More sidewalk is good.

But the end building is currently about 11m wide. In the above drawing, the edge of the new building is about 6m from the property line. So, the Pearl facade is moving (?) or being "reconstructed" about 5m closer to the corner.

On the diagram above there is a notch that is demarcated by a dotted line labelled with "LEVEL 1-4 PODIUM OUTLINE". I think this accounts for the difference in distance you're referring to here, though I'm really bad at reading these sorts of documents so it's very likely I'm the confused one.

The "EX HERITAGE FACADE" with the "EX LIGHT STANDARD" right in front of it match up pretty well to the front of the Pearl Laundry building

Yes the podium overhangs to the approx 6m mark from floors 4 up. At ground to 3rd the Pearl building is at the corner.

[tomh009]

On the diagram above there is a notch that is demarcated by a dotted line labelled with "LEVEL 1-4 PODIUM OUTLINE". I think this accounts for the difference in distance you're referring to here, though I'm really bad at reading these sorts of documents so it's very likely I'm the confused one.

The "EX HERITAGE FACADE" with the "EX LIGHT STANDARD" right in front of it match up pretty well to the front of the Pearl Laundry building

Yes the podium overhangs to the approx 6m mark from floors 4 up. At ground to 3rd the Pearl building is at the corner.

All right, that's better than I expected.

[Bjays93]

This is a downright disaster. I hate what IN8 is doing to this city.

[Spokes]

How is it that developers can't be held to certain standards from a design perspective?

[bravado]

Is there a way to set "design" in stone that is actually objective?

[ac3r]

Design can never be objective by nature. Aesthetics is a wholly subjective thing.

That said, we really ought to have a design panel in this region that can work with the developers, architects, region and the cities. Something not directly affiliated with them, who has people like architects, artists, designers, planners, engineers etc who can analyze and critique a design.

I am considering reaching out to some people to see about starting something like this, but it will be a complicated and long process. I have a few days this coming week where I am not busy, so maybe I'll write up a proposal and submit it to the region and cities. Do we have anyone here who works in any of the previously mentioned fields?

[dubya]

Design can never be objective by nature. Aesthetics is a wholly subjective thing.

That said, we really ought to have a design panel in this region that can work with the developers, architects, region and the cities. Something not directly affiliated with them, who has people like architects, artists, designers, planners, engineers etc who can analyze and critique a design.

I am considering reaching out to some people to see about starting something like this, but it will be a complicated and long process. I have a few days this coming week where I am not busy, so maybe I'll write up a proposal and submit it to the region and cities. Do we have anyone here who works in any of the previously mentioned fields?

100% to this. It exists in Toronto. No highrise development goes up without having to appease the Design Review panel. The Toronto process helps immensely with both activating the sidewalk level and skyline level. Buildings IMPROVE the streetscape and mega projects like FDB and the proposed Westmount/Erb development would never happen with the panel in place because every tower in the development must have a unique look (even if it is just that the cladding is different). 

Building approvals aren't Regional purview. Each city would need this. It would help if this was a coordinated approach across the three cities though. 

Copy paste what Toronto has in place to expedite!

Here is more context and samples of the results:
https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2022/03/exp...view-panel

Project early proposal and fail: https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2019/03/kin...view-panel
Same project revisions as a result: https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2021/07/rev...view-panel

Fail: https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2021/05/pro...ign-review
Result: https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2022/03/pro...-park-size

Even Civic projects go to scrutiny with remarkable results:
https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2022/03/che...view-panel

[Lebronj23]

Looks like this has been approved in principal


https://app2.kitchener.ca/appdocs/openda...e_Plan.csv

[Lebronj23]

Article from CTV Kitchener about the tenants having to relocate. Looks like this could be IN8s next project to go on sale..

https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/queen-stree...1.6444585Q

[taylortbb]

Article from CTV Kitchener about the tenants having to relocate. Looks like this could be IN8s next project to go on sale..

https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/queen-stree...1.6444585Q

Link isn't working for me, but Goldie's has posted in their Instagram that the end is coming much sooner than expected. Sounds like end of summer they'll likely be closing. I'm surprised they did the renos they did without a longer lease. https://www.instagram.com/p/CtUFJCwgGkw/

[Acitta]

Article from CTV Kitchener about the tenants having to relocate. Looks like this could be IN8s next project to go on sale..

https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/queen-stree...1.6444585Q

The URL is not quite right. https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/queen-stree...-1.6444585

[Square]

Looks like they are close to demolishing this strip of buildings.

[ZEBuilder]

Looks like they are close to demolishing this strip of buildings.

They do have two permits currently under review (application status), one for the demolition of the properties (permit 23-114124), another for the construction of the building (permit 23-121674). I find that surprising considering IN8 hasn't even started marketing the building yet. I seem to recall Duke Tower being sold out before permits were even issued.

[Lebronj23]

IN8 just launched sales for 1017 Main in Hamilton which is a multi tower project. I suspect this is their next one.

Also the permit says 45 stories, might have grown a story

[neonjoe]

IN8 has put their redevelopment of Hamilton city centre on ice indefinitely, meaning the empty mall will just be sitting vacant. Does this signal a sign that some of their new projects locally may be delayed as well.