ION - Waterloo Region's Light Rail Transit

[ac3r]

Anyone want to start a betting pool on how many cars hit the trains here before 2020? Hahah that's 4 in such a small time.

Come on, if you can avoid driving into buses and transport trucks every day you drive your car, you can avoid driving into entire trains - which come equipped with warning bells, lights, barriers lines on the road as well as nearing a decade of the entire thing being under construction and in the media. You KNOW it's there, and that it's running.

[bgb_ca]

Anyone want to start a betting pool on how many cars hit the trains here before 2020? Hahah that's 4 in such a small time.

Come on, if you can avoid driving into buses and transport trucks every day you drive your car, you can avoid driving into entire trains - which come equipped with warning bells, lights, barriers lines on the road as well as nearing a decade of the entire thing being under construction and in the media. You KNOW it's there, and that it's running.

Averaging 1.5 every 2 weeks, x 28 weeks = 21

[jeffster]

Are there increased penalties / fines for collisions with an LRV vs with a car? Cause that'd be nice.

The fines don't matter, because the police NEVER hand them out.

These illegal turns have been happening forever.  Just like the uptown lanes, zero enforcement has led to a culture where the laws don't matter.

And - the drivers in this region have finally been exposed for the idiots that they are.

Victoria and Strange/West gets to me, and I always wonder why no enforcement for the stunt driving that occurs there every, single, time.

[jeffster]

Anyone want to start a betting pool on how many cars hit the trains here before 2020? Hahah that's 4 in such a small time.

Come on, if you can avoid driving into buses and transport trucks every day you drive your car, you can avoid driving into entire trains - which come equipped with warning bells, lights, barriers lines on the road as well as nearing a decade of the entire thing being under construction and in the media. You KNOW it's there, and that it's running.

One, they are silent and two, they have the right of way at times. But since people in this region ignore stop signs, red lights, green lights, no left turns, no u-turns, and no right on red, and can't understand what it means to yield, this is going to happen.

If the police start to enforce, and actually charge people the max fines, then it will stop. You don't see driving like this anywhere in Ontario. Sure, you have the scammers in Brampton and Markham, but you don't have the same stupidity you see here.

Man...I need to see a doctor, this whole things is stressing me out.

[Square]

Just heard on the scanner of a collision at Erb and Caroline! 2 in 1 day! Wow, this is going to be trouble!

[panamaniac]

All as expected, no? Give it a year or so to settle down. I recall posting a couple of years ago that the trains would soon look like they were purchased at a scratch and dent sale!

[Square]

All as expected, no?  Give it a year or so to settle down.  I recall posting a couple of years ago that the trains would soon look like they were purchased at a scratch and dent sale!

Lol, true, but I wasn't expecting another Houston even before the service starts.

[KingandWeber]

Just heard on the scanner of a collision at Erb and Caroline!  2 in 1 day!  Wow, this is going to be trouble!

How is a collision even possible there with the gates? I guess somebody could have already been in the intersection, but then I would have thought the train would be able to stop in that case.

[Square]

Just heard on the scanner of a collision at Erb and Caroline!  2 in 1 day!  Wow, this is going to be trouble!

How is a collision even possible there with the gates? I guess somebody could have already been in the intersection, but then I would have thought the train would be able to stop in that case.

Not sure, just it has blocked the freight train from doing it's northbound movement.  Could be in the Waterloo Square North parking lot?, someone past the gate went through after?  They mentioned it's still being investigated, so anyone in the area can check it out.

[ijmorlan]

Not sure, just it has blocked the freight train from doing it's northbound movement.  Could be in the Waterloo Square North parking lot?, someone past the gate went through after?  They mentioned it's still being investigated, so anyone in the area can check it out.

That explains why the freight train was holding south of William/Willow. I just got back from popping over to WTS to see what was happening. When I got there a few minutes ago, there were no LRVs around and the switch connecting to the freight track was lined for freight. A flatbed was on Caroline northbound just south of Erb, with one car, front corner smashed in, on the flatbed, and another, rear corner smashed in, hooked up for towing. WRPS, Keolis, and I think GRT were still on scene. I headed back and just for fun went past the freight train. Shortly after I turned around, the signal turned from red to yellow and after a few moments the train moved on.

So I’m wondering if possibly this was a car-on-car collision only? Is it definitely known to have also involved an LRV? I’m thinking that depending on exactly where a car-car collision occurred the rail authorities would be involved, if only to know that the collision investigation is occupying the intersection and keep rail traffic out until it is done.

[Square]

Not sure, just it has blocked the freight train from doing it's northbound movement.  Could be in the Waterloo Square North parking lot?, someone past the gate went through after?  They mentioned it's still being investigated, so anyone in the area can check it out.

That explains why the freight train was holding south of William/Willow. I just got back from popping over to WTS to see what was happening. When I got there a few minutes ago, there were no LRVs around and the switch connecting to the freight track was lined for freight. A flatbed was on Caroline northbound just south of Erb, with one car, front corner smashed in, on the flatbed, and another, rear corner smashed in, hooked up for towing. WRPS, Keolis, and I think GRT were still on scene. I headed back and just for fun went past the freight train. Shortly after I turned around, the signal turned from red to yellow and after a few moments the train moved on.

So I’m wondering if possibly this was a car-on-car collision only? Is it definitely known to have also involved an LRV? I’m thinking that depending on exactly where a car-car collision occurred the rail authorities would be involved, if only to know that the collision investigation is occupying the intersection and keep rail traffic out until it is done.

Thank you for the update.  I thought that I heard control say that a LRV was still in the intersection, could be wrong tho.

[Bob_McBob]

WRPS:

WA19141105-MVC PERSONAL INJURY
Posted Monday, 17 June, 2019
Incident #: WA19141105
Incident Date: Jun 17, 2019 11:12:00 PM
Location: Between CAROLINE ST N and ERB ST W, WATERLOO

[MidTowner]

All as expected, no?  Give it a year or so to settle down.  I recall posting a couple of years ago that the trains would soon look like they were purchased at a scratch and dent sale!

That's how I feel. These incidents are different because they involve a new type of vehicle on the road, and they're rightly getting attention for that reason. But they're resulting from the same types of manoeuvres that cause fender benders and worse every day already.

It would have been more surprising if we had somehow gone a long stretch without incidents such as these. Unfortunately, this just reflects how a lot of people operate their vehicles.

[KevinL]

Apparently trains are being doubled up today during testing!

[Bob_McBob]

Did anyone ever figure out what actually happened at Erb and Caroline last night?