ION - Waterloo Region's Light Rail Transit

[danbrotherston]

Another vehicle and car crash by Central Meat Market right now.

Now that one is a fully protected turn, I'm sensing an illegal turn.

[Pilsner]

Another vehicle and car crash by Central Meat Market right now.

Fire trucks came by Victoria/King. And trains are holding at Central station in both directions.

[Pilsner]

Another vehicle and car crash by Central Meat Market right now.

Fire trucks came by Victoria/King. And trains are holding at Central station in both directions.

Moving again southbound.

[jamincan]

I kind of always new people turned without fully looking first, but it's astonishing how bad it really is. I can understand how if you're looking for cars, it's easy to visually miss a cyclist or walker, but a train?!

[MidTowner]

If that's the left turn from south/east-bound King Street in front of KCI, I have seen a number of motorists simply turn illegally after not getting a left turn signal because they were stopped on top of the crosswalk, too far forward of the sensors.

[timc]

Another vehicle and car crash by Central Meat Market right now.

Now that one is a fully protected turn, I'm sensing an illegal turn.

It has to be, unless there was a signal malfunction.

[MidTowner]

From the picture on CTV's web site, it looks as though the driver must have been trying to make an illegal U-Turn from north/west-bound King to south/east-bound King. That's not uncommon there, either.

[timc]

From the picture on CTV's web site, it looks as though the driver must have been trying to make an illegal U-Turn from north/west-bound King to south/east-bound King. That's not uncommon there, either.

It could also be a left turn from Central Fresh Market onto King, if the train pushed the van through the intersection.

[KevinL]

If you're going north on King but want to access somewhere on the west side of the street, you have to turn around to reach it. You should properly use a designated U-turn or make use of side streets, but not everyone has the patience for that...

[jamincan]

Someone posted on reddit that a lot of people coming out of Tim Hortons do an illegal U-turn here - it would certainly make more sense.

[clasher]

They really ought to have installed "no turn" cameras and they could have been fining people for a couple of years. Signs just aren't enough to stop people from being stupid it seems. Also wouldn't have this problem if we'd have just built a monorail

[danbrotherston]

If you're going north on King but want to access somewhere on the west side of the street, you have to turn around to reach it. You should properly use a designated U-turn or make use of side streets, but not everyone has the patience for that...

If you don't have the patience to follow the rules of the road, then you shouldn't be allowed to drive, having insufficient temperament to drive safely is definitely the biggest physical problem drivers routinely ignore while driving.

[danbrotherston]

I kind of always new people turned without fully looking first, but it's astonishing how bad it really is. I can understand how if you're looking for cars, it's easy to visually miss a cyclist or walker, but a train?!

This!  This is my response every time someone blames a cyclist or ped for not wearing bright enough clothing....UGH.

And yes, looks like an illegal U-Turn.

[danbrotherston]

CBC is reporting WRPS statement that it was indeed an illegal U-Turn:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener...98?cmp=rss

"Waterloo regional police service said they believe the driver of the van was trying to do a U-turn at the intersection and was hit by the ION train."

CBC should mention that U-Turns are explicitly prohibited at that intersection...

[Bob_McBob]