ION - Waterloo Region's Light Rail Transit

[Bob_McBob]

The Record says Keolis anticipates the train will be back in service by tomorrow.

[ijmorlan]

But how long until the sides are plastered with giant adverts, obscuring the view from the inside haha...

Actually I think the Region has already taken a considered decision not to do that. It may even be at the level of “no external ads at all”.

[jamincan]

Quote from CTV: "The LRT vehicle had about $40,000 in damage done to it"

There must be some internal damage

Could a coupler cost that much?

Out of curiosity, who pays for that? The van driver's insurance, I'd assume, because damn, I feel like a $40,000 payout is gonna raise their insurance cost by a pretty penny

Not to be insensitive, but running a red light could have been far far worse. A bump in insurance premiums is probably a pretty light consequence.

[ijmorlan]

Quote from CTV: "The LRT vehicle had about $40,000 in damage done to it"

There must be some internal damage

Could a coupler cost that much?

Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. There may be various components, not all obvious, which are somewhat damaged. Also there will be several hours’, at least, labour to install the new pieces and do whatever testing is needed afterward. Also, unlike car components, these are low-volume items, so everything is more expensive than the same exact part would be if it was on your car.

[KevinT]

Interesting quote in this article, https://www.kitchenertoday.com/local-new...sh-1483536:

He says they currently have ten trains testing each day, which will be about the same amount that will be on the tracks when the service launches on June 21.

He being Thomas Schmidt, the region's Commissioner of Transportation and Environmental Services. I thought I heard more than six trains acknowledging an 'All LRVs' message on the radio today, but they came so fast and furious that I wasn't keeping accurate count...

[panamaniac]

Oh no!

https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/lrt-vehicle...-1.4446021

Is this the first time there has been an accident?

First but not the last ....

[bgb_ca]

Interesting quote in this article, https://www.kitchenertoday.com/local-new...sh-1483536:

He says they currently have ten trains testing each day, which will be about the same amount that will be on the tracks when the service launches on June 21.

He being Thomas Schmidt, the region's Commissioner of Transportation and Environmental Services.  I thought I heard more than six trains acknowledging an 'All LRVs' message on the radio today, but they came so fast and furious that I wasn't keeping accurate count...

Notice they didn't say testing at the same time...

[embe]

Is this the first time there has been an accident?

First but not the last ....

Unfortunate agreement on this point.  Traffic in town has been getting worse lately (seems like permits come in cereal boxes).

[Acitta]

Interesting quote in this article, https://www.kitchenertoday.com/local-new...sh-1483536:

He says they currently have ten trains testing each day, which will be about the same amount that will be on the tracks when the service launches on June 21.

He being Thomas Schmidt, the region's Commissioner of Transportation and Environmental Services.  I thought I heard more than six trains acknowledging an 'All LRVs' message on the radio today, but they came so fast and furious that I wasn't keeping accurate count...

I was out on my bike and hanging around Mill Station, Borden St. and Ottawa on Thursday after 8 PM and I timed trains going by at 15 minute intervals. Tonight, I was cycling along Duke St. just after 7 and saw a couple of trains pass by at about an 8 minute interval. I think that they are testing at service level frequency.

[jeffster]

Quote from CTV: "The LRT vehicle had about $40,000 in damage done to it"

There must be some internal damage

Could a coupler cost that much?

Out of curiosity, who pays for that? The van driver's insurance, I'd assume, because damn, I feel like a $40,000 payout is gonna raise their insurance cost by a pretty penny

Ontario has "No Fault" insurance in terms of who pays what, so RoW has to pay; and they have their own insurance pool. However, since the van driver was at fault, their insurance goes up, assuming they had it. Zero effect on RoW, as they're not at fault.

As for the exaggerated costs; I don't believe the damage is serious, however, the part that is destroyed isn't a dime a doze. And the vehicles would have to be given a full inspection to ensure everything is good.

I got rear-ended by a lady when I stopped for a school bus, you could hardly see any damage at all, but we took it in anyway, and total was $4,800. About $3,800 of the cost was labour. So I think the same applies here.

[tomh009]

I was out on my bike and hanging around Mill Station, Borden St. and Ottawa on Thursday after 8 PM and I timed trains going by at 15 minute intervals. Tonight, I was cycling along Duke St. just after 7 and saw a couple of trains pass by at about an 8 minute interval. I think that they are testing at service level frequency.

Yes. And the signs at the stations (showing the next trains' arrival times) appear to be accurate.

I see trains every 10-15 minutes (in each direction) when I'm out walking in the early mornings.

[tomh009]

On a lighter note, I final snapped a better photo of the Kitchener Market art installation.

   

[danbrotherston]

Out of curiosity, who pays for that? The van driver's insurance, I'd assume, because damn, I feel like a $40,000 payout is gonna raise their insurance cost by a pretty penny

Ontario has "No Fault" insurance in terms of who pays what, so RoW has to pay; and they have their own insurance pool.  However, since the van driver was at fault, their insurance goes up, assuming they had it. Zero effect on RoW, as they're not at fault.

As for the exaggerated costs; I don't believe the damage is serious, however, the part that is destroyed isn't a dime a doze. And the vehicles would have to be given a full inspection to ensure everything is good.

I got rear-ended by a lady when I stopped for a school bus, you could hardly see any damage at all, but we took it in anyway, and total was $4,800. About $3,800 of the cost was labour. So I think the same applies here.

The cost of the repairs is quoted at 40k, train bumpers are not the same as car bumpers...in that one is not mass produced.

As for "no fault", it simply means one goes to ones own insurer for coverage, I believe the insurers in the background settle up based on fault.

[ijmorlan]

Ontario has "No Fault" insurance in terms of who pays what, so RoW has to pay; and they have their own insurance pool.  However, since the van driver was at fault, their insurance goes up, assuming they had it. Zero effect on RoW, as they're not at fault.

The Region’s insurance is probably not vehicle insurance, however. I think this is more like a car going out of control and knocking over a fence, in terms of the legal framework that applies; it’s not a vehicle-on-vehicle collision from that standpoint. I doubt that the Region’s insurance will change as a result of this one occurrence; however in the event that multiple occurrences happen, it might affect their renewal. Unless, as suggested by somebody else, the driver’s insurance will pay the Region’s insurance behind the scenes.

[timc]

Why would the Region be affected at all? ION is operated by Grandlinq.