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(04-15-2018, 10:54 AM)Canard Wrote: The last two three posts are the best ones in pages of negative, hateful drivel. Thank you Kevin and Tom.
I have never, ever understood the human desire to "hate" something so passionately.
No need to throw the word "hate" around as is so commonly done every time someone reads or hears something they disagree with. There are legitimate, truthful, accurate posts on this forum from people who are unhappy with the current situation and the response is to accuse of hate.
You have never understood the human desire to hate. Others may have never understood the human desire to deny.
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04-15-2018, 04:15 PM
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(04-15-2018, 03:32 AM)sevenman Wrote: (04-15-2018, 01:32 AM)MacBerry Wrote: Please stop defending Bombardier and their lies and delays Oh it's Cn/CPs fault, please ... one and a half years late in deliveries and lateness growing ...
Canada's worst corporation BOMBARDIER.
They have screwed their own reputation and the people of Ontario and Waterloo Region are their victims, they also have used taxpayer subsidies to enrich senior management.
Exactly Mac,
The last portion of your post is the most frustrating. $32 million in bonuses for six, that's right SIX executives.
Good grief, $32M for 6 people WHO CAN'T GET THIS THING DONE ON TIME??!!?? What's the point of a bonus? LOL...
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Everyone in this thread needs to take a breather and stop poking at each other
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04-16-2018, 07:40 AM
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Councillor Galloway will be on CBC radio 1 (89.1) at 7:50 this morning.
Everyone move to the back of the bus and we all get home faster.
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Is there more than one way BBD can ship LRT and Streetcars? ... It appears using a truck float to transport TTC streetcars or possibly LRTs an option.
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(04-16-2018, 07:40 AM)Pheidippides Wrote: Councillor Galloway will be on CBC radio 1 (89.1) at 7:50 this morning.
Is there any way to "roll it back" to listen to it?
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Still no sign of 506 yet?
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Not that I've seen.
More importantly, perhaps: Still no sign of testing? This is now the fourth (fifth?) week in a row with zero activity on the tracks. I'm not surprised today with the horrible weather, but... the optics are bad.
I get that they're doing other activities, but I wish they were more public about what they're actually up top.
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(04-16-2018, 09:23 AM)Canard Wrote: (04-16-2018, 07:40 AM)Pheidippides Wrote: Councillor Galloway will be on CBC radio 1 (89.1) at 7:50 this morning.
Is there any way to "roll it back" to listen to it?
They don't put everything up, but if they choose that segment it will show up here sometime tomorrow.
Nothing new really. He said that the new penalties for Bombardier are proprietary information that can only be shared by Bombardier or Metrolinx, but that they are exponentially larger than the $1,500 per day per train that they have long since topped out on. I thought that was a bit confusing because I thought the new agreement only applied to the yet to be built Crosstown vehicles. If it does apply to our vehicles I guess the new deadline would be June?
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Sigh. Almost no one understands the meaning of "exponential" these days.  The worst is this concept of "stepped exponential", which makes no sense at all ...
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(04-16-2018, 09:22 PM)tomh009 Wrote: Sigh. Almost no one understands the meaning of "exponential" these days. The worst is this concept of "stepped exponential", which makes no sense at all ...
Sigh. Almost no one has any manner these days. I believe the phrase you were going for was, "thank-you for the summary."
Without having a direct quote to go from I was simply trying to use the words I thought I heard and remembered the councillor saying.
Hey Canard, can you explain t he relevance of your earlier tweet about that CAD job posting?
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Sorry, Pheidippides. I do appreciate the summary, i was just annoyed by the councillor's use of "exponential". 
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(04-16-2018, 09:32 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: Hey Canard, can you explain the relevance of your earlier tweet about that CAD job posting?
Sure. It was the verbiage; "...LFLRV's currently being manufactured in Waterloo".
This kind of goes along with my understanding that they've brought in a whole whackload of more people to do assembly and modification here.
506 is still sitting on the flatcar in Kingston, and hasn't been picked up.
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04-17-2018, 11:39 AM
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(04-14-2018, 06:58 PM)sevenman Wrote: (04-14-2018, 04:09 PM)JoeKW Wrote: So, is this really mostly Bombardiers fault? Didn't the region ask them to hold trains back until a few weeks ago?
Actually, pretty much all their fault.
I'm curious, how do you propose that they could have delivered completed trains to the region any earlier when Metrolinx refused to sign off on a spec once the Transit City projects for which the original order was placed were all cancelled or delayed?
Even after they had a spec they could build and deliver to in mid-2016, the Communications Based Train Control signalling system remained unspecified, hence the hole in the dashboard we all witnessed at the open houses. I can only assume that that gap has been closed now, but it would only have happened very recently.
Unfortunately Bombardier can't blame Metrolinx as they are still a major customer of theirs, and the region can't blame Metrolinx as they still want Phase 2 funding, so the only party that gets publicly named and shamed is Bombardier. Are they blameless? I'm sure not, but I do feel sorry for them for getting 100% of the blame in the public press / mindset while only being partially responsible for the overall delays.
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(04-17-2018, 11:39 AM)KevinT Wrote: I'm curious, how do you propose that they could have delivered completed trains to the region any earlier when Metrolinx refused to sign off on a spec once the Transit City projects for which the original order was placed were all cancelled or delayed?
Even after they had a spec they could build and deliver to in mid-2016, the Communications Based Train Control signalling system remained unspecified, hence the hole in the dashboard we all witnessed at the open houses. I can only assume that that gap has been closed now, but it would only have happened very recently.
Unfortunately Bombardier can't blame Metrolinx as they are still a major customer of theirs, and the region can't blame Metrolinx as they still want Phase 2 funding, so the only party that gets publicly named and shamed is Bombardier. Are they blameless? I'm sure not, but I do feel sorry for them for getting 100% of the blame in the public press / mindset while only being partially responsible for the overall delays.
This should be a pinned post - thank you for explaining this so well Kevin!
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