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04-13-2018, 04:19 PM
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Council report is out.
And it's very disappointing:
https://calendar.regionofwaterloo.ca/Cou...202018.pdf
Target launch date is December 2018. Yet another 6 month delay. If they launch in December it will be just a few months over one year late.
I'm sure this will not be popular with a certain group of people who are trying to get re-elected in October.
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Thanks for finding that and sharing, Dan.
Wow, that's... that's bad. Reading through it now...
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Ugh. I am very disappointed in how slowly things have been allowed to proceed and the dearth of testing seen so far, and it seems now that's well founded. Hopefully this lights a fire under the right people and we find a way to shrink these timelines.
Curious: "The original project schedule included 8 months of testing and commissioning activities following the delivery of the last vehicle." Was this always public knowledge?
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I think that's the first I've seen of a concrete number.
We also finally have dates for the art installations:
• Spinal Column at the Hospital (June)
• Tall Tales of Mill St. at Mill St. (June)
• Because Cats Can’t Fly at Kitchener Market (June)
• Three Sisters at Block Line (June)
• Shaping Residency at Fairway (June)
• Continuum at Conestoga (June)
• Fabric of Place at Old Albert St. (June)
• Arras at Fairway (July)
• The Passenger at Research and Technology (September)
• The Network at Research and Technology (October)
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Incidentally, Canard, did you see pages 46-55? Something's up with the Courtland/Siebert area but I can't penetrate the legalese.
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Final expropriations/easements along Courtland near Siebert and Shelley are listed in the package as well.
I don't think the 8 months of testing has been mentioned publically before, but I always assumed it would be at least that based on other similar sized systems. The fact that much of it has to happen after the 14th vehicle is delivered was surprising as well.
Everyone move to the back of the bus and we all get home faster.
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(04-13-2018, 04:46 PM)Bob_McBob Wrote: https://www.therecord.com/news-story/839...-december/
TLDR: Region is blaming Bombardier for late deliveries. I don't buy it this time.
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(04-13-2018, 04:43 PM)KevinL Wrote: Incidentally, Canard, did you see pages 46-55? Something's up with the Courtland/Siebert area but I can't penetrate the legalese.
No, I'd just jumped ahead to page 60 - wow, good find. So it is now moving to expropriation. Wow, I'm amazed that dragged out so long! I feel bad every time I'm by there and see the residents on Siebert waiting to pull out, and can't.
I really, really, really hope this slips to Spring 2019. I cannot stand the thought of opening day in the dead of winter. It's so gross. 
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(04-13-2018, 04:46 PM)Bob_McBob Wrote: https://www.therecord.com/news-story/839...-december/
Quote:However, he added, "Bombardier has made significant strides in the last few months."
"Ultimately, it is a good vehicle," Schmidt said. "There's no point of trying to cut corners at this point."
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Ah, so they wanted to pay the dealership fair value for the larger space needed, but couldn't strike a deal? Now I get it.
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Where did you see that Kevin?
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(04-13-2018, 04:45 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: Final expropriations/easements along Courtland near Siebert and Shelley are listed in the package as well.
I don't think the 8 months of testing has been mentioned publically before, but I always assumed it would be at least that based on other similar sized systems. The fact that much of it has to happen after the 14th vehicle is delivered was surprising as well.
Yeah, I'm really not clear on why we need eight months after the last vehicle -- I would think at that point we'd just need to test/certify the last vehicle, which should not take anywhere near that long.
Quote:Under the original agreement, Bombardier planned to have all vehicles delivered here by December 2016. That was then moved to the following December, pushing the service start to late spring 2018.
And that's only six months, not eight.
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04-13-2018, 05:05 PM
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Could it be that Peter Shawn Taylor was aware of this news before writing the article referenced on pg. 768? The opening comments "...the future appears to look like a bunch of empty tracks designed to make driving more awkward and confusing. Assuming our missing trains do eventually arrive, however...", may not seem as negative, compared to realistic if this schedule was "in the know" for certain people.
**Sorry all, I edited my own post after re-reading and seeing the context it could be taken in**
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