05-22-2021, 12:43 PM
(05-22-2021, 12:05 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: I really must ask what you folks think grade separation would achieve? Who benefits. What does this investment gain us.Lights should be programmed to give lrt priority. That's fixable without grade separation but grade separation does a few other things.
The Courtland and Wilson examples are the most stark. The ONLY benefit drivers, and have zero benefit for LRT riders.
I'm used to money being spent on drivers, what especially bugs me, is that this money would be labeled "transit"...but it isn't being spent on transit.
The single grade separated station (not even the right of way, just the station) that I support, I do so because I believe it would improve the rider experience significantly to be worth the cost both financially and also to the experience of the users of that particular station.
I know I've heard the claims that going underground in DTK would improve the speed, but it doesn't. Going down KING improves the speed, that doesn't require going underground. I've also heard, not waiting for lights, but again, waiting at lights is a choice we've made, not a requirement of at grade operation (pretty clearly since the trains don't wait at all intersections).
First off, in the downtown it improves the pedestrian experience, particularly when it comes to the way the stations are currently organized.
Secondly grade separation would reduce accidents, which there have been quite a few of since the lrt got up and running and can be quite costly.
And thirdly, yes it does in fact benefit cars at the aforementioned intersections. Having an eco friendly city does not mean making driving unfeasible to the point that people only choose transit, it means incentivizing transit to make it the better mode of transportation.
Livability and maneuverability are huge measures of an attractive city, and in rush hour around the fairview park area it can be absolutely horrific.
I'd rather money be spent to ensure that Fairway rd can continue to keep up with the existing demand, than i would see millions get spent on widening the 401 for future demand

