03-03-2019, 07:42 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2019, 07:43 PM by danbrotherston.)
(03-03-2019, 07:10 PM)jeffster Wrote:(03-03-2019, 04:37 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: Don't fall into the trap of false equality.
Yes, there are extremists on the left. They do not run the media, nor do they end up elected to the highest office, as is certainly the case in the US, I've seen this justified with false rhetoric all the time "a Hillary supporter said that capitalists are murderers, so it's okay for me to actually vote for a man who says Mexians are rapists, because both sides are equal". Canada is not quite in the same state politically, but I believe I have been seeing the same kind of false equivalences being used.
While I have no love for Trudeau, he is not the equivalent of Trump, or Ford, or even Scheer at this point, even if some of his supporters are equally fanatical.
I do agree that Trudeau is not Trump. They're very different in their wants and desires. What they do have in common are blind worshippers and a general inability to tell the truth 100%. However, just because one believes in climate change and the other doesn't, it doesn't make ones lies less worse than the other.
As for extremists on the left running the media, I will say they have some control, at least in the USA.
Just one example was this: https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2019...026886002/
Another one is this: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/l...816523002/
And this one: https://deadline.com/2019/03/washington-...202568450/
Really, poor reporting all around. But it does show that the media is controlled by more than one group. Sadly, with all the "Fake" news out there, it takes away from the 'real news' that worshippers refuse to believe. Such as the case with this SNC-Lavalin issue. Such as the case with the Russian collusion "Witch Hunt". They're both real, but both side refuse to believe.
No, the one issue does not make them equivalent, but an objective view of both, shows that one is vastly different from another. You seem to be implying an equivalence here (and perhaps you don't intend to, but that's what I interpreted it reading). Both Trump and Trudeau have made statements which turned out to be not entirely true, but to say that makes them similar is misleading, Trump lies as a rule. Even if you think all politicians lie most of the time, Trump has set a new benchmark that nobody even comes close to matching.
As for media, I'm not sure what those links are supposed to highlight, but at least in the US, FOX News is a major news organization (those links are not from agencies with anywhere near as much viewership), which has an explicit and intentional goal to sway public opinion to support the Republicans. There is no other example in the US of an entity with both as much mindshare (ability) and also as clearly an explicit goal of misinforming the public. There are major news outlets with a liberal bias (like NPR) but they don't even come close to the level of viewership and misrepresentation seen on FOX.