02-26-2019, 04:23 PM
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(02-26-2019, 03:56 PM)jeffster Wrote: Yet it's many the left that wants to force EVERYONE to get involved in PRIDE, and if you don't, you're a horrible, evil person. Sure, you have religious fanatics who'll protest and tell these people that God will make them burn in hell for eternity, but that's a very small minority. Trudeau, for example, has done identity politics with his cabinet. Did he choose the best? Or did he choose what fit his agenda?
The left doesn't want everyone involved in Pride, the left does want politicians who are supposed to represent everyone, to participate in major events in those communities. I've never been to a big Pride event - those kind of crowds are not my thing - but I identify as a member of the left and am generally welcomed in those communities.
Speculating whether or not someone made the right choice is not evidence that they didn't, but it is a form of propaganda that implies that he didn't. He absolutely made some wrong choices, it's inevitable. All PMs have, some people just can't do the job they're given - the Peter Principle applies to political jobs just as much as corporate ones. Whichever wrong choices he made weren't because they were unqualified - his initial cabinet was almost entirely qualified.
A notable exception that comes immediately to mind for me was Chagger who I was genuinely concerned about given her lack of experience with either small business or tourism. Given that she moved on from her Ministry to become the Leader of the Government in the House - a pretty important position - I'm not aware of any particularly egregious failures.
That question ("are they filling quotas or are there good candidates who aren't white men?") continues to be a talking point not because it's proven to be valid in Trudeau's cabinet (or in any of the other places that it's used), but because it's a useful tool to cast aspersion onto candidates who come from backgrounds outside the historic norm. If you assume that any white male candidate is qualified without evidence, you should assume that the same is true for anyone else and if there is anyone else you're concerned about you should focus on their specific lack of qualifications, not the fact that you think they're filling a quota.
(02-26-2019, 03:56 PM)jeffster Wrote: 99% of people simply don't care anymore, including so-called conservatives.
To the extent that this is true (I agree that for gay and lesbian folk it largely is) however, is because of people like Moraga using their platforms to normalize these sorts of differences and force the default away from the hetero nuclear family. Also, many vocal conservatives globally absolutely are using and promoting trans-folks-as-predators related fears just as much as gays-are-pedophiles type messaging was used historically.