08-16-2018, 06:05 PM
(08-16-2018, 04:41 PM)danbrotherston Wrote:(08-16-2018, 04:35 PM)KevinL Wrote: ....
Cycling in the manner of a motor vehicle - taking the lane, etc.
A bit of context here, there is a group of folks who have argued against bike infrastructure (variously, of *all* kind, and of segregated kinds) because they believe that "if only everyone can learn to get along" cyclists can be perfectly safe on the roads.
They're one of the bigger obstacles to building safe cycling infrastructure.
And they exist today, in our region, making decisions about bike infrastructure................
Wow. “if only everyone can learn to get along”
Completely idiotic. While motorists should drive better (i.e., learn to get along), both overall and specifically in how they relate to cyclists and pedestrians, and cyclists as a group could also improve their game, a road like Fischer-Hallman is inherently dangerous for cyclists. The only way to make it safe is to slow it down so much that it doesn’t serve its main function of moving motor vehicles from here to there. In some places, that really is the answer — but not everywhere. And I say that as someone whose preferred city plan is radically different from what we actually have. Also, bicycles are slow traffic for a fundamental reason, and it’s just stupid to suggest that large volumes of motor vehicle traffic should be required to move at bicycle speeds on major thoroughfares.