06-16-2017, 11:06 AM
(06-16-2017, 10:47 AM)tomh009 Wrote:(06-16-2017, 10:14 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: A median island is only slightly better.
Dismount signs are the definition of failure on bike infrastructure. If other countries can manage to cross a road with LRT tracks on a bike, there's no reason that we can't as well.
I don't really see how a median island helps -- it doesn't force anyone to modify his or her behaviour.
I do understand the issue you have with the dismount signs. I would like to hear your opinion on the stop signs for cyclists (on a trail such as this one) though. My observation on cyclist behaviour on the IHT (in non-peak hours) is that all of the above signs are pretty much ignored and most people take the road crossing at pretty much full speed.
I agree cyclists generally disregard "stop" signs on trails (as they do on streets)....I certainly slow down when I cross a road, but I also cycle pretty fast, but I rarely stop. Putting up signs which are basically intended to be ignored is bad policy because it encourages people to break all the rules, after all, if one is okay to break, others are okay to break as well right? This is something which is basically everywhere in our society, so I don't think we can change it, but realistically, the incremental cost of one more sign which everyone will ignore is small. But I'll still argue against it. It is also not without consequence, ignoring a sign can shift liability in the case of a collision.
In an ideal world, they'd simply be "yield" signs, or even better, the trail would have priority on minor roads....or even better than that....small residential streets which it crosses would be a 30 km/h zone and controlled by default priority like in the Netherlands....but yeah...none of those things are going to happen apparently.