World politics

[danbrotherston]

It’s not creative’s fault that Kodra24 made an off-topic throwaway comment that should not, in the present environment, be left unrefuted. It’s not creative’s fault that “A lie gets halfway around the world before truth puts on its boots”. What’s toxic is people making ignorant (at best) asides while discussing something else, not people who do us all the public service of responding to falsehoods when they come up.

In the particular case of Russia vs. Ukraine, this is even more so, because the success of Ukraine (the indisputable innocent victim) against Russia (the indisputable evil aggressor) depends in part on public support around the world, so falsehoods about the situation may have an effect on the outcome more directly than other falsehoods might.

Anyway creative was correcting facts, not opinions. So if creative made a mistake in their correction, let’s hear the correction to the correction. Otherwise, let’s hear thanks from everybody, including the one who was corrected.

You didn't even read what I said...   I wasnt refuting what he stated, I said I appreciate his words. What I dont like is the his tone and insults.  Like I said, the message gets lost with many of us when people on this site are always talking down... It has become way to toxic.  Do you not wonder why so many people don't respond or comments on here any more...

If you think the site is "way too toxic" because we're frustrated with someone spreading Kremlin propaganda and aren't civil enough in response (while still providing a detailed explanation), then bluntly...your priorities are wrong.

Calls for civility are often used by bad actors to distract from the facts.

I don't think that's what you're doing in this comment, but you should think carefully when it's pointed out that bad actors would be saying exactly the same things as you are.