General Road and Highway Discussion

[danbrotherston]

Are you entirely unwilling to question the fundamental assumptions here? Is it convenient to have a cycle path next to a four lane stroad? Sure.

But maybe question why you have to have all these cars right in the middle of everything instead?

Like...when the US started to have rivers catch fire because of the volume of industrial contaminants pumped into the river, they didn't just invest in fireproof boats, they fundamentally changed the paradigm of the water, where maybe it shouldn't be flammable.

The Netherlands isn't a pleasant place to live because there are bike paths adjacent to all the four lane stroads where we have to exist. It is pleasant because they don't have such things, the cars are limited and kept away from people.

But what the fuck, everything I posted here gets downvoted by the same jackass, so I'm seriously questioning whether I have any interest in continuing to participate here. It's a pretty shitty experience, and especially infuriating given the whining and complaining that certain folks here express when people actually engage with their arguments.

The road in question leans far more towards being a Road than a stroad. It’s primarily being built for cross town traffic, there is very very little along Bleams that would be considered local access besides a few industrial buildings  but these almost always have their access off of other side streets. The inclusion of multi use trails for the long distance active travellers is a good inclusion.

Nowhere anywhere have I ever said that the inclusion of active transportation infrastructure is a bad thing. Bleams has 14 driveways between Manitou and Homer Watson, it is absolutely a stroad. Further, Manitou and Fairway both are very driveway heavy as well, and are clearly stroads as well. And the industrial park where the new road is being built already has six access roads, in addition to all perimeter lots also having driveway access onto the surrounding stroads. The whole area is an absolute mess.

The inclusion of active transportation infra will improve connectivity for cyclists, but it also increases the connectivity for drivers, in a system that already has too much connectivity.