10-23-2024, 08:34 AM
(10-22-2024, 06:54 PM)ijmorlan Wrote:(10-21-2024, 12:49 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: This kind of thing is basically ubiquitous in the Netherlands, virtually every residential street is disconnected in this way. It should be the norm. The cycle link is nice, in that it formalizes what you would already do.
It is the norm in the suburbs, just about everywhere — all those culs de sac and crescents effectively disconnect the local streets. But other aspects of the design undermine it so that overall the area is more car-oriented than downtown areas.
Nah, the point of the examples I gave are the ONLY cars are restricted, pedestrians and cyclists are not. Yes, the suburbs do have *some* cut-throughs, but not reliably so.
Further, even in the suburbs cul-de-sacs aren't actually the norm, there are still multiple routes through. Further, the cul-de-sacs are giant gobs of pavement. Again, the above examples are simply dead ends. Cars there would have to slowly turn around in a 3 point turn rather than being able to do a high speed u-turn in the pavement width.
The devil is in the details....these things are different.