Road design, safety and Vision Zero

[Bytor]

No, 50m, although I didn’t actually calculate the number. The idea is that I can press the button and at about the time I reach the road I will get a green. So it needs to be whatever distance back gives time for the lights to cycle. Of course there also needs to be a button right at the road for pedestrians and people arriving from a different direction.

There's enough pedestrian and bicycle traffic here that they could eliminate the buttons entirely and just cycle the lights on a fixed schedule, but we all know how our traffic engineers would feel about that.

Or, you know, using intelligent sensors like the Dutch and change as needed whenever.