06-19-2023, 12:23 PM
(06-19-2023, 12:13 PM)Bytor Wrote:(06-15-2023, 11:48 PM)jeffster Wrote: Should also be noted, the Netherlands are roughly 200km by 200km in size (41,000 km2). That's it. And yet you still have 588 cars per 100k. For comparison, Southern Ontario is 114,000 km2, almost 3x the size, with about 4.5 million less people.
Bullshit alert.
Nobody's talking a bout biking across Ontario (or even across the Netherlands) so that size is utterly irrelevant and bad faith arguing to bring up.
It's about biking 1-5km to work inside the same city where you live.
Honestly...it's also silly. From a travel perspective...there are no borders in schengen zone (which is slightly different than the EU).
I'm not sure what jeffster was getting at for the Netherlands in terms of area, it doesn't really affect anything. Most people drive their cars for exactly the same types of long distance trips as they do in Ontario...we aren't on an island...people routinely drive 3 hours to places in Germany or Belgium.
The difference again is that you are not dependent on a car...you can drive to Rheinbach Germany (a random small town in Germany) but I can also take transit pretty easily in a way that is impossible in most of Ontario.