Road design, safety and Vision Zero

[danbrotherston]

I think this was in reference to carrying children. There's social pressure...also technical pressure...I cannot physically fit the stupidly giant car seat in a subcompact car. Owning a larger vehicle is certainly expected.

And FWIW when it comes to cars and transportation, I don't think any of us are normal

With parents today (and overbearing grandparents) I think you’d get a fair amount of pushback/questions if you tried to jam kids into a modern Corolla or Civic. Somehow you absolutely need that SUV in 2023 parenting circles and anything else is bordering on neglect.

Lol...stop describing my parents...

Jokes aside, you're absolutely right. And it's ironic given my parents cars when I was a child were a Ford Tempo and then a BMW 318i (VERY vintage) before eventually graduating to a minivan. So they had no need for a giant SUV when I was growing up.

I will say there is a difference in regulation though, car seats are required for much longer, and car seats have ballooned in size. You'd be hard pressed to fit two of todays car seats in a Ford Tempo and even with my sister and I being 3 years apart, you'd still need two full size car seats which my parents never had.

But again, there's no reason it needs to be that way, they have small car seats here, there's no technical reason that a car seat has to be the size of a lazyboy recliner.