Road design, safety and Vision Zero

[danbrotherston]

As much as Councillor Freeman's backtracking the article is a bit weak and overblown, I don't think she's offering that up without it being true out on the trail. Just that she's decided its worth rewinding over vs. having the fortitude like her fellow councillors trying to find common ground and reason with voters.

But Outhit/the Record have been losing their minds about it since the vote, so hardly surprising they are putting a megaphone to it.

Yup...

But I think they're not getting much traction on it, and that makes me happy.

It just pisses me off that 90% of the people who have a problem with this, both claim that they are ignoring what the people want, and are also in the minority of people who wanted nothing. (Even though plenty of them will lie and say they'd accept 40km/h)

FWIW...the majority of the roads where I live are 30km/h. And the street outside our home has no posted limit (30km/h is default) and yet average traffic speeds are more like 15km/h. I literally get held up when I am behind a car on my bike.

It is all road design, but we have to be willing to design for 30km/h. Our engineers are unwilling to do this even with a 30km/h (they'll insist on 40km/h still, but that's better than the 60km/h they designed for before). That being said, I doubt anyone in the city has the knowledge and skills to design for 30km/h as doing so would involve going "off book" as the standard reference manuals they rely on do not have designs for 30km/h roads. But, lowering speed limits to 30km/h is the first step (and must be the first step).