Road design, safety and Vision Zero

[ijmorlan]

Well...

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/co...t_in_bike/

I mean it's hard to know the complete context, but certainly an example of the cyclist or pedestrian 'coming out of nowhere'.

Of course what's frustrating is this is how drivers describe 99% of collisions where they hit a VRU.

I'm gonna guess something like: "Oi bruv...yeah just hop the next car that comes by on your bike bruv...I've done it a million times...me and Callum will get it on video bruv...trust me it'll blow up on TikTok we'll go viral."

If the context were “we can’t see the stop sign the car is supposed to be stopped at”, then that is the kind of thing that could make a difference. But on re-watching a couple of times, I’m finding it hard to imagine any hidden context mattering in this particular case: the car makes a left turn at what seems to be a reasonable speed, then is unable to stop in time when the rider comes literally jumping out of the bushes. Even if the car could, in principle, stop in time, it’s unreasonable and more to the point unfair to expect motor vehicles to jam on their brakes wherever and whenever a rider wants to cross the road: there has to be some concept of taking turns and allowing people to complete turns they’ve already started. How does that rider behave around pedestrians and other riders? What if he had hit a child walking on the sidewalk?

One of the comments asserts that “In the Netherlands, that is 100% the car drivers fault”. If that is true, then their rules have gone overboard and are no longer protecting cyclists at large but rather oppressing others for the benefit of those few cyclists who behave irresponsibly.