Cycling in Waterloo Region

[creative]

I rest my case!

[danbrotherston]

I rest my case!

What case?

You're arguing we're making factual statements...

We're not.

Is "we should design roads so that drivers can go faster" a factual statement or a value statement?

[cherrypark]

There's a good video that was just put out about Doug Ford's so called war on bike lanes which all mass media and every biking YouTuber has jumped on, but was barely about bike lanes and more a way to try and push more road/highway legislation through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-1vT0TmQjs

Nothing like a convenient wedge issue and distraction all wrapped in one nice ideological package.

[cherrypark]

I like how those that drive cars are supposed experts on building bike lanes while those that primarily cycle are supposed experts on how to build car lanes. Dunning Kruger effect

There certainly is some of that from both "sides", but it's really not equivalent. Most people who drive almost exclusively drive, but most people who bike also drive (and walk, and take transit).

Exactly. I drive and bike on the same streets regularly. Never am I sitting there thinking the bike lanes are the primary issue with any congestion or extra light cycle. (Hint: almost always construction for road repair or expansion)

[ac3r]

There's a good video that was just put out about Doug Ford's so called war on bike lanes which all mass media and every biking YouTuber has jumped on, but was barely about bike lanes and more a way to try and push more road/highway legislation through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-1vT0TmQjs

Nothing like a convenient wedge issue and distraction all wrapped in one nice ideological package.

He really likes using the US playbook when it comes to governance, but like...in a real dumb, inelegant way.