535 Quiet Pl | 8 fl | Proposed

[cherrypark]

535 Quiet Place, Waterloo

Hickory Terraces Ltd.
3 towers, 14 storeys, 423 units



Proposal Document

Waterloo Record Article

[cherrypark]

Reading the Record article and didn't see a thread yet for this development, though it might have been in the general discussion. Quite a large development and certainly making it look like a McCormick LRT station would have been a good idea. Not sure its much to look at and a bit disappointing to see the large podium scant a single 3-bedroom unit, but to be expected.

[CP42]

535 Quiet Place, Waterloo

Hickory Terraces Ltd.
3 towers, 8 storeys, 423 units



Proposal Document

Waterloo Record Article

8 storeys, but it appears to be 14 in the renderings?

[CP42]

It appears they are “three 8 storey towers sitting atop a 4 storey podium” and the last storey in the renderings is indicated to be a loft. So technically 13 storeys? Odd because the renderings seem to very clearly show 5 storeys in the podium as well.

[ac3r]

Reading the Record article and didn't see a thread yet for this development, though it might have been in the general discussion. Quite a large development and certainly making it look like a McCormick LRT station would have been a good idea. Not sure its much to look at and a bit disappointing to see the large podium scant a single 3-bedroom unit, but to be expected.

Additional stations can always be constructed (though it's a complicated process on an active line) when necessary. That said, I doubt we'd see that happen for a long time...especially here. While there is some density in the area, it's primarily townhouse complexes and single family homes. It's a 10 minute walk from R&T station at most or a short trip on the number 9. Apart from the winter months, that's perfectly walkable.

[cherrypark]

It appears they are “three 8 storey towers sitting atop a 4 storey podium” and the last storey in the renderings is indicated to be a loft. So technically 13 storeys? Odd because the renderings seem to very clearly show 5 storeys in the podium as well.

Ah, thats what I get for not reading the document or you know, using my eyes. Updated.

[cherrypark]

Reading the Record article and didn't see a thread yet for this development, though it might have been in the general discussion. Quite a large development and certainly making it look like a McCormick LRT station would have been a good idea. Not sure its much to look at and a bit disappointing to see the large podium scant a single 3-bedroom unit, but to be expected.

Additional stations can always be constructed (though it's a complicated process on an active line) when necessary. That said, I doubt we'd see that happen for a long time...especially here. While there is some density in the area, it's primarily townhouse complexes and single family homes. It's a 10 minute walk from R&T station at most or a short trip on the number 9. Apart from the winter months, that's perfectly walkable.

Fair point, this one itself is not that far. I just generally think of having lived a bit west of the former ION stop on Parkside and would think those people might be a bit of a long walk to the R&T in that case.

[danbrotherston]

Additional stations can always be constructed (though it's a complicated process on an active line) when necessary. That said, I doubt we'd see that happen for a long time...especially here. While there is some density in the area, it's primarily townhouse complexes and single family homes. It's a 10 minute walk from R&T station at most or a short trip on the number 9. Apart from the winter months, that's perfectly walkable.

Fair point, this one itself is not that far. I just generally think of having lived a bit west of the former ION stop on Parkside and would think those people might be a bit of a long walk to the R&T in that case.

Frankly, they should build an infill station at that location. It would even be hard, most of the connections are already there, and with it being ballasted tracks, it wouldn't even be hard to move them.

[jeffster]

Doubtful that Quiet Place will be a quiet place after this build goes up.

[Spokes]

The #1 NIMBY argument?? But it's in the name!!!

[KevinT]

Doubtful that Quiet Place will be a quiet place after this build goes up.

Developments are always named after whatever was bulldozed/killed to make them. Beechwood Forest? Yeah right. Fox Run, maybe, once upon a time. Rockway? Not a single music festival to be found...

[Acitta]

Large Waterloo housing development approved but residents raise affordability concerns
Over 400 rental units will be added on Quiet Place in Waterloo, but affordable units won't be included

[jeffster]

Large Waterloo housing development approved but residents raise affordability concerns
Over 400 rental units will be added on Quiet Place in Waterloo, but affordable units won't be included

Highlights and coloured the important parts.

Gasp....no shock.

[tomh009]

Waterloo Council would certainly have had the ability to press for an affordable component. Instead, Waterloo will get this:

Kristin Barisdale, the planning consultant for the developer said affordable housing units will not be included.

"Based on the current market and forecast ... we would expect that the rental rates are going to be between $2200 and $3000. However, the construction market and market demands are quite volatile at this point," she told Waterloo city council on Monday.

$2200 for 1BR is about 30% above current 1BR rates, is it not?

Apart from that, it's a Drewlo-style design. No 3BR units. No greenspace atop the podium. And about 0.5 bicycle spaces per unit. And not walkable to anywhere.

Makes the Barrelyards look quite attractive, does it not?

[Chris]

Large Waterloo housing development approved but residents raise affordability concerns
Over 400 rental units will be added on Quiet Place in Waterloo, but affordable units won't be included

The current NIMBY playbook. Shadows, traffic, affordable, attainable. And the one guy that likes a tiny, run down Tim Horton's.

Is the consultant for the developer setting them up for high rents or when the rents are less (closer to current market) tenants will feel like they got a deal? As Tom pointed out, her figures seem off?