To Thrive Together community in Bloomingdale

[ac3r]

Zero carbon, multi-generational community planned for Bloomingdale: https://outline.com/UNEASs

[neonjoe]

^ Neither Urban nor Waterloo. But looks like a great project for the area,

[danbrotherston]

^ Neither Urban nor Waterloo. But looks like a great project for the area,

Is it though?


Or more specifically, it isn't a good location for the project.

While I support their goals, the location will be by definition car dependent. There is no transit, no active transportation, no local amenities. Anyone living there will be required to own and drive a car for everything. There isn't so much as a corner store in Bloomindale. Although, there is a car dealership.

[ac3r]

^ Neither Urban nor Waterloo. But looks like a great project for the area,

My bad haha, I often forget there's a suburban forum. I'll post it over there too.

[ac3r]

Zero carbon, multi-generational community planned for Bloomingdale: https://outline.com/UNEASs

[taylortbb]

Zero carbon, multi-generational community planned for Bloomingdale: https://outline.com/UNEASs

I don't think this project is really suburban either, I think you're looking for the Townships forum, https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/....php?fid=8 .

[CP42]

^ Neither Urban nor Waterloo. But looks like a great project for the area,

Is it though?


Or more specifically, it isn't a good location for the project.

While I support their goals, the location will be by definition car dependent. There is no transit, no active transportation, no local amenities. Anyone living there will be required to own and drive a car for everything. There isn't so much as a corner store in Bloomindale. Although, there is a car dealership.

There’s a pizza shop and a weed shop. What more could you ask for?

[ac3r]

A bus route, of course, because you shouldn't drive to the pizza shop stoned. :^)

[ac3r]

Well the categorization on this forum doesn't make a whole lot of sense so at times I never know where to put things. Apparently Elevate Condos is urban for some unspecified reason, but then Fairview Park Mall is suburban - yet they're a stones throw away from each other. But then places like Bloomingdale and Breslau are politically in the townships, yet they're the same distance from downtown as The Boardwalk. Hard to tell if the distinction is based on political differences or urban planning differences.

I guess because I'm from a big city...even places like Elmira are just basically suburbs of Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge in my mind. They're just commuter towns. And Breslau and Bloomingdale are just generic neighbourhoods now - the same way Doon is - even if they are politically part of Woolwich.

[taylortbb]

Well the categorization on this forum doesn't make a whole lot of sense so at times I never know where to put things. Apparently Elevate Condos is urban for some unspecified reason, but then Fairview Park Mall is suburban - yet they're a stones throw away from each other. But then places like Bloomingdale and Breslau are politically in the townships, yet they're the same distance from downtown as The Boardwalk. Hard to tell if the distinction is based on political differences or urban planning differences.

I guess because I'm from a big city...even places like Elmira are just basically suburbs of Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge in my mind. They're just commuter towns. And Breslau and Bloomingdale are just generic neighbourhoods now - the same way Doon is - even if they are politically part of Woolwich.

I have no idea why Elevate is in the urban forum, I agree with you there. But I think the suburb/township forum split has always (to me) just been political based on the municipal boundary.

You're not wrong that the towns are now suburbs of KW, I don't think that's just a big city perspective (though I'm from a big city too).

[CP42]

A bus route, of course, because you shouldn't drive to the pizza shop stoned. :^)

Luckily it’s walking distance from the site!

[ijmorlan]

Although, there is a car dealership.

So in other words, anybody who doesn’t have a car can walk to the dealership and buy one. So what is the problem again?

[danbrotherston]

Well the categorization on this forum doesn't make a whole lot of sense so at times I never know where to put things. Apparently Elevate Condos is urban for some unspecified reason, but then Fairview Park Mall is suburban - yet they're a stones throw away from each other. But then places like Bloomingdale and Breslau are politically in the townships, yet they're the same distance from downtown as The Boardwalk. Hard to tell if the distinction is based on political differences or urban planning differences.

I guess because I'm from a big city...even places like Elmira are just basically suburbs of Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge in my mind. They're just commuter towns. And Breslau and Bloomingdale are just generic neighbourhoods now - the same way Doon is - even if they are politically part of Woolwich.

I have no idea why Elevate is in the urban forum, I agree with you there. But I think the suburb/township forum split has always (to me) just been political based on the municipal boundary.

You're not wrong that the towns are now suburbs of KW, I don't think that's just a big city perspective (though I'm from a big city too).

Suburbs is a term that used to mean cities surrounding a central city, but now often refers to "suburban sprawl around a central city".  The townships are not contiguous suburban sprawl, so they fail to meet that definition. And only SOME of them meet the commuter city with cheap housing surrounding a central city definition, specifically towns like New Hamburg, Baden, Elmira. I wouldn't say that Bloomington meets this definition (although this development, despite it's low car aspirations, may very well begin to catapult it there).

[plam]

Zero carbon, multi-generational community planned for Bloomingdale: https://outline.com/UNEASs

Well, OK, but I wonder where people go to buy their milk. The article is pretty silent about that. It's good to have zero carbon and all but if you can't meet your daily needs without using a car it kind of misses the point.

[Acitta]

Zero carbon, multi-generational community planned for Bloomingdale: https://outline.com/UNEASs

So, more farmland being paved over.