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Costco--but with 800 apartments
#1
A new Costco proposal in LA area is not only mixed use but includes a huge amount of residential units. 800 units in total, including 184 for low-income tenants.  Couldn't one of our own retail chains take a similar approach as well?

A rendering of the street view.

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This is a BIG footprint.

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https://www.sfgate.com/la/article/costco...541521.php
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#2
What happens if the Costco business model goes out of style and there’s a gigantic warehouse void at the bottom? Either way, quite creative.

Of course the bike lane in the render is a death trap…
local cambridge weirdo
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#3
I suspect just about any bike lane in LA will be a death trap!
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#4
(07-01-2024, 09:12 PM)bravado Wrote: What happens if the Costco business model goes out of style and there’s a gigantic warehouse void at the bottom? Either way, quite creative.

Of course the bike lane in the render is a death trap…

A huge flat enclosed climate-controlled space in a city will always have many possible uses.

Our one-story commercial plazas are ridiculous. Something like this makes way more sense. Essentially every plaza should have apartments and/or office above.
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(07-02-2024, 07:14 AM)ijmorlan Wrote:
(07-01-2024, 09:12 PM)bravado Wrote: What happens if the Costco business model goes out of style and there’s a gigantic warehouse void at the bottom? Either way, quite creative.

Of course the bike lane in the render is a death trap…

A huge flat enclosed climate-controlled space in a city will always have many possible uses.

Our one-story commercial plazas are ridiculous. Something like this makes way more sense. Essentially every plaza should have apartments and/or office above.

I've always thought that any plaza that incorporates a supermarket and a drug store would make an obvious place to build independent-living seniors apartments.
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#6
This an example of the pre-mid 20th Century version of the downtown retail store with housing above, but on steroids. Would this kind of development be possible in Ontario given our current zoning practices?
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#7
Isn't it just a mixed-use building from a zoning point of view?
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#8
My exact thoughts. This isn't exactly a new idea. We used to always build buildings where the ground floor is commercial and anything above is residential or offices. I suppose this only differs in that it's a building typically in a big box suburban store located in a suburban area; a Costco first, residential second.

Would be nice to see more projects like this, though. But it's very hard to convince retail stores to take on a project like this.
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#9
Vancouver has a Costco downtown with housing above it and a Skytrain station nearby. https://x.com/BrentToderian/status/1428215964357648386
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#10
(07-06-2024, 06:53 AM)ac3r Wrote: My exact thoughts. This isn't exactly a new idea. We used to always build buildings where the ground floor is commercial and anything above is residential or offices. I suppose this only differs in that it's a building typically in a big box suburban store located in a suburban area; a Costco first, residential second.

Would be nice to see more projects like this, though. But it's very hard to convince retail stores to take on a project like this.

And I think that is really the unique point: Costco is actually taking the lead in developing this, including affordable housing.
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#11
Yet another reason to like Costco(I don't like the car-centric aspect though). I hope they do this for ever Costco. I don't think it should be too difficult to retrofit existing locations to be like this. If a shithole country like my homeland can do it, so can a western country.The map is not up to date, but when I was on vacation there with my buddies a year ago, they had closed off a section of the inside to put some support pillars so they can build (probably another hotel) on top of the existing structure.
Galatians 4:16
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#12
It would be nice to do this to every Costco, but in most locations the local planning and zoning would forbid it. What we need is a broad renewal of those regulations.
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(07-09-2024, 10:52 AM)KevinL Wrote: It would be nice to do this to every Costco, but in most locations the local planning and zoning would forbid it. What we need is a broad renewal of those regulations.
Ofcourse, but where do we not need a broad renewal of regulations?
Galatians 4:16
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#14
I think it would be quite hard to retrofit existing locations… modern warehouses are truly the simplest steel boxes you can build.
local cambridge weirdo
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#15
Fair enough, back in ex-yugoslavia all buidlings are built pretty sturdy. When my grandparents come to visit and see houses being built out of wood frames they ask "How do your houses not collapse???"
Galatians 4:16
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