01-07-2022, 08:10 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-07-2022, 08:11 PM by danbrotherston.)
(01-07-2022, 07:32 PM)ijmorlan Wrote:(01-07-2022, 05:14 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: I certainly agree that literally holding people down and forcing a needle into them is unacceptable in our society, but there are so many other options that this suggestion is basically just a bad faith argument.
You should know me well enough by now to know I’m not saying anything in bad faith.
But that being said, you make a valid point: there is as you say a wide range of what “mandatory” could mean. For example, making everybody who isn’t vaccinated by a specific date subject to a $25 fine would be an extremely mild form of “mandatory” but since it would legally be a requirement it would count as mandatory.
In fact, for precisely that reason, it occurs to me we should be cautious of what a politician means by mandatory: do they just want to be able to say that they’re instituting mandatory vaccination? That $25 fine would do basically nothing for vaccination rates but would allow somebody to claim that they had made vaccination “mandatory”. I’d be more impressed with a politician who comes up with a way that actually works of increasing vaccination rates.
Fair point, I don't think you're making a bad faith argument, perhaps it's better to say it's a straw man argument...but maybe then I'm accusing you of being fooled by it.
Either way, I think we're on the same page.
FWIW...I wouldn't discount a 25 dollar fine, I think that would influence a lot of less...erm...proudly stupid anti-vaxxers. I'm actually more worried about the politician who makes the vaccine "mandatory" with exceptions including "I don't want to"...you know, kinda like has already happened.
(01-07-2022, 07:33 PM)ijmorlan Wrote:(01-07-2022, 07:25 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: (If you also want to triage the assholes who publicly documented themselves being reckless on the Mexico flight, be my guest).
Well, until those people figure out how to get back to Canada, they’re not going to be a problem for our health care system regardless!
Yeah, I must admit I am enjoying a significant amount of schadenfreude about those folks. Apparently a significant portion of them now have COVID to boot.