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Ending Chronic Homelessness
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(11-27-2021, 07:39 PM)dtkvictim Wrote:
(11-27-2021, 05:16 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: Don't you question what you read?

"The people took their personal belongings"...then what exactly what being bulldozed?

Do I want to see excrement everywhere? No...maybe we should provide people bathrooms so they aren't forced to poop in the street?

If not there, then where? WHERE? Bulldozing these people's belongings does not make them not homeless, it just makes them more miserable and more destitute. Where exactly DO you think is an appropriate place for them to put up a tent? Somewhere out of view? That would make it easier for the rest of us to forget about the suffering.

Oh, and for bonus points today we get to watch our tax dollars used to pay a helicopter fly over with a banner advertisement for the stupid museum exhibit which they claim was going to attract out of town visitors. We truly live in the darkest timeline.

You can and should question what you read, but that doesn't mean you can make up alternative claims without proof. Hell, I question what The Record writes because I've seen them publish outright pro-homeless lies in situations I've have had inside information on. Given their generally sympathetic view towards the homeless, why would they not question and publish information about wanted possessions being destroyed?

I don't know what the right answers are, but I don't think allowing encampments is helpful to anyone. Try seeking out some online discussions from Toronto, and see how their encampments (or even temporary shelters) have affected local residents. It's genuinely pushing people out of walkable urban neighbourhoods. For added fun (slightly unrelated), check out how the complete tolerance to anti-social behaviour is driving people away from public transit and into cars.

Sorry if it's a little aggressive, I don't know any of the individuals living in this encampment and I don't want to blame my general experiences on them either. But I understand the general sentiment; my last four years downtown has been the lowest quality of life I've ever had, and that's exclusively been driven by the mentally ill and addicted. That's also in spite of the incredible park, businesses and shopkeepers, and ability to live a walkable and bikeable life. I'm personally at the end of my rope, and when I read the experiences of those in Toronto and other cities living near encampments I read the same experiences I've had.

I want solutions, and I'm willing to pay for it (financially, but not at the expense of my own sanity as I'm currently doing). The current trajectory of near complete tolerance mixed with a lack of real action is making things worse.

What proof do you want? I've seen the videos, I've seen the people crying, I've seen their belongings and shelter being destroyed.

As for the Record article, I found it to be neutral, it is the region's statements I believe are between misleading and outright lies.

Honestly, it's bullshit. If you cannot understand how bulldozing people's shelter and potentially killing them is beyond inhumane and unhelpful, I can't help you.

MY rights to not be "disturbed" by homeless people are QUITE OBVIOUSLY less important than their right not to freeze to death in the cold.

This isn't an exaggeration or hyperbole, people (these are people) have died as a direct result of clearing encampments before, they will again, maybe not this time, but frankly, I don't think we'd even know.

Let me be equally aggressive. I don't care what homeless people do, when we bulldoze their belongings and shelter without providing any reasonable options for those things, WE ARE THE BAD PEOPLE, it does not matter what transgressions they committed.

As for tolerance, I don't think this was bulldozed because we fear tolerance, I believe it was bulldozed to encourage tolerance. If you bulldoze them from a visible space, and force them into a less visible space, guess what, that encourages tolerance through ignorance.

Honestly, I'm furious about this, and the fact that someone could suggest this is acceptable...I have nothing polite to say.

Yesterday I had to watch my tax dollars be used to bulldoze people's shelter and belongings. Today I had to watch them be used to fly a helicopter advertising a museum exhibit for famous celebrities.

Tomorrow, I will be at the protest. There is no justification for these cruel and corrupt actions. They are being done in MY name, and I won't stand for it.
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Ending Chronic Homelessness - by dtkmelissa - 01-21-2019, 07:01 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Spokes - 01-22-2019, 09:23 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by dtkmelissa - 01-22-2019, 09:31 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 03-17-2019, 11:22 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by dtkmelissa - 03-24-2019, 09:56 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 03-17-2019, 11:21 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by panamaniac - 10-01-2020, 04:17 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Rainrider22 - 10-01-2020, 04:57 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by jeffster - 10-02-2020, 11:49 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Rainrider22 - 10-03-2020, 07:54 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 11-26-2021, 11:22 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by jeffster - 11-26-2021, 11:58 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 11-27-2021, 12:28 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Rainrider22 - 11-27-2021, 03:12 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by KingandWeber - 11-27-2021, 05:13 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by dtkvictim - 11-27-2021, 07:39 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by danbrotherston - 11-27-2021, 08:34 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by dtkvictim - 11-28-2021, 10:30 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by jeffster - 11-27-2021, 09:10 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by jeffster - 11-27-2021, 10:55 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 11-28-2021, 03:04 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by jeffster - 11-27-2021, 08:50 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Rainrider22 - 11-27-2021, 09:05 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Acitta - 11-28-2021, 11:59 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by jeffster - 12-10-2021, 09:06 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 12-12-2021, 04:09 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by panamaniac - 01-12-2022, 11:35 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 01-12-2022, 11:45 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Rainrider22 - 01-13-2022, 09:48 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by panamaniac - 01-13-2022, 10:24 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 01-13-2022, 11:45 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Chris - 01-13-2022, 01:47 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ac3r - 01-13-2022, 01:48 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by nms - 01-13-2022, 09:48 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 01-17-2022, 03:16 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by panamaniac - 01-17-2022, 04:37 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ac3r - 05-26-2022, 08:59 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 05-27-2022, 09:34 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 05-28-2022, 02:08 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ijmorlan - 05-29-2022, 08:38 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by plam - 05-29-2022, 10:25 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 05-29-2022, 11:37 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ac3r - 05-28-2022, 09:41 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ijmorlan - 05-28-2022, 04:13 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ac3r - 05-28-2022, 05:48 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ijmorlan - 05-29-2022, 08:31 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ijmorlan - 05-29-2022, 12:02 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by robdrimmie - 05-30-2022, 09:18 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Chris - 06-21-2022, 10:22 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Chris - 06-22-2022, 09:08 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Chris - 06-22-2022, 09:27 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 06-24-2022, 09:14 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ac3r - 06-24-2022, 02:31 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ijmorlan - 06-24-2022, 06:58 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ac3r - 07-03-2022, 02:55 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Acitta - 08-08-2022, 09:22 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 08-08-2022, 10:16 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ac3r - 10-03-2022, 04:56 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by nms - 01-27-2023, 09:39 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by KevinL - 01-28-2023, 06:48 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Acitta - 01-28-2023, 06:58 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by panamaniac - 01-28-2023, 07:54 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ijmorlan - 01-29-2023, 08:59 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ijmorlan - 01-30-2023, 12:10 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 01-29-2023, 02:11 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by neonjoe - 01-30-2023, 10:29 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Acitta - 01-30-2023, 04:46 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ac3r - 02-23-2023, 11:39 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by jeffster - 02-24-2023, 01:50 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Acitta - 02-24-2023, 12:48 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by jeffster - 02-25-2023, 02:48 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Acitta - 02-25-2023, 03:58 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by jeffster - 02-27-2023, 02:26 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 02-27-2023, 03:16 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 02-24-2023, 11:37 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by bravado - 02-27-2023, 06:32 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ijmorlan - 02-27-2023, 11:54 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by bravado - 02-28-2023, 11:30 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ijmorlan - 02-28-2023, 11:41 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 05-14-2023, 04:45 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by Acitta - 05-15-2023, 10:58 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by dtkmelissa - 05-15-2023, 11:22 AM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by tomh009 - 05-15-2023, 05:59 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by bravado - 05-15-2023, 05:54 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by bravado - 06-06-2023, 06:34 PM
RE: Ending Chronic Homelessness - by ac3r - 06-07-2023, 12:06 AM

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