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TEK Tower (30 Francis) | 45 fl | U/C
(05-31-2021, 09:22 PM)taylortbb Wrote:
(05-31-2021, 07:53 PM)dtkvictim Wrote: Nothing wrong with not wanting to be Toronto.

But I think there is something wrong with opposing new housing construction when we have a significant shortage and resulting affordability crisis. Canada has the fewest dwelling units per capita of any G7 country, it's no wonder our housing is expensive. Simple supply and demand.

Theoretically one could be for more housing, but believe we should do it differently. I however have yet to see a single opponent of development that has a credible plan for how else to solve our housing crisis. Just lots of handwaving and denial of the problem.

There is of course a chance that you're right, and "Trucker Joe" is simply opposed to building new housing, but you're absolutely reading more out of that tweet than what is actually there. I would agree it's highly unlikely that he has a credible plan for solving our housing crisis though...

I fall into the category you're describing of believing we should be building more housing, and doing it differently, AND addressing the factors that are driving up demand so high. Though, I also won't object to this building, or any like it, because I know it's extremely unlikely for any of my opinions on policy to come to fruition in Canada's political climate. And this is still better than nothing even if I think it carries a lot of negatives with it.

(06-01-2021, 10:47 AM)Bytor Wrote:
(05-31-2021, 07:53 PM)dtkvictim Wrote: Nothing wrong with not wanting to be Toronto.

Simply having high-rises doesn't make us Toronto, though.

1) I think concentrated high-rise development is a symptom of the same problems that made Toronto. So in that regard, you're correct, the problem starts elsewhere. But
2) I don't think it's too far fetched to think that buildings primarily occupied by an undiverse (young, single or childless couples) can be a catalyst for redefining an urban culture into something that resembles many other cities.

For the record, I don't think Toronto is some irredeemable hellhole. It's just not a place I would choose to live.
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RE: TEK Tower (30 Francis) | 45 fl | U/C - by nms - 03-07-2023, 10:47 PM
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