03-03-2024, 02:44 AM
(03-02-2024, 10:30 PM)jwilliamson Wrote:(01-03-2024, 06:06 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: There are exactly 0 parks in the Netherlands which are open to cars. Modal filters are used on streets, not parks.
The Vondelpark in Amsterdam has a section that is cut off from the rest of the park by Van Baerlestraat. The Rembrandtpark has Postjesweg cutting through it. The Stadspark Maastricht has a road cutting through dividing it from the otherwise indistinguishable Monseignur Nolenspark. There's a road splitting the Wilhelminapark in Apeldoorn from the Verzetstrijderspark.
If we renamed half of Victoria park to Kaiserwilhelmspark, it would be no different from any pair of parks that are divided by a road between them in the Netherlands.
In Vondelpark the roadway is raised above the park, beyond creating noise, the roadway and the cars on it do not interact with the park patrons in any way. I suppose we could spend a few hundred millions raising Park St. on a viaduct through the park, but that would seem to me to be a bad use of money.
As for the other parks, you might be right, I've not visited every park in NL.
But honestly, I had to dig really far back in the thread to even remember the context of this comment, this was several months ago...I'm not sure why it comes back up now. In any case, it was in response to Bytor's comment about this happening "all the time" in NL, so my reply was a little bit in protest to that, certainly no park I've been to here has anything remotely similar to the situation on Jubilee Dr.
I still find Jubilee Dr. uniquely egregious and in the same vein as Central Park Dr. in NYC, but as others have brought up, there also other issues surrounding the park.
By the way, has there been any progress on Roos Island? Last time I was there it was closed off for "renovations".