City Centre/Young Condominiums | 17, 25 & 6 fl | U/C

[Spokes]

Such a great shot!

[white_brian]

So the front is supposed to be 4 floors, I tried to see a drawing of the King St side but couldn't find one

[taylortbb]

So the front is supposed to be 4 floors, I tried to see a drawing of the King St side but couldn't find one

A render of the King St frontage was posted earlier in the thread, https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/...5#pid59685 . The render is for 6 floors of retail + residential. I think 4 floors is from an older office building proposal.

[KingandWeber]

So the front is supposed to be 4 floors, I tried to see a drawing of the King St side but couldn't find one

A render of the King St frontage was posted earlier in the thread, https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/...5#pid59685 . The render is for 6 floors of retail + residential. I think 4 floors is from an older office building proposal.

Thanks taylorbb! I had never seen that before. That frontage actually looks really good.

[white_brian]

Yes thank you. I agree that looks great

[ac3r]

I love how the renders always make the streets look so busy and full of people from all walks of life. Downtown rarely looks like that, and half the people you see out are people you want to ideally avoid. "Got any change?". Hopefully with time, the streets will have a good level of activity, but I think we're in desperate need of interesting retail, food and amusement (galleries, bars, theatres, cinemas, cultural centres, workshops) to really get us there. If you live downtown, you're forced to go shopping elsewhere for the most part. If you live outside of the downtown, there is very little reason to go down there to find something you can't find closer to you.

[panamaniac]

I love how the renders always make the streets look so busy and full of people from all walks of life. Downtown rarely looks like that, and half the people you see out are people you want to ideally avoid. "Got any change?". Hopefully with time, the streets will have a good level of activity, but I think we're in desperate need of interesting retail, food and amusement (galleries, bars, theatres, cinemas, cultural centres, workshops) to really get us there. If you live downtown, you're forced to go shopping elsewhere for the most part. If you live outside of the downtown, there is very little reason to go down there to find something you can't find closer to you.

You don't see the current wave of development as changing that DTK dynamic?  The downandouters are not going anywhere, but there are going to be a lot more residents wandering around the neighbourhood, along with the growing employed population/lunch crowd.  Kind of like in a real city ....

[robdrimmie]

Downtown rarely looks like that, and half the people you see out are people you want to ideally avoid. "Got any change?".

This is a really gross misrepresentation. Please speak about humans with compassion.

[tomh009]

I love how the renders always make the streets look so busy and full of people from all walks of life. Downtown rarely looks like that, and half the people you see out are people you want to ideally avoid. "Got any change?". Hopefully with time, the streets will have a good level of activity, but I think we're in desperate need of interesting retail, food and amusement (galleries, bars, theatres, cinemas, cultural centres, workshops) to really get us there. If you live downtown, you're forced to go shopping elsewhere for the most part. If you live outside of the downtown, there is very little reason to go down there to find something you can't find closer to you.

As someone who lives, works and (often!) shops downtown, I would say that, outside the current pandemic, the DTK streets are pretty lively during weekdays, but quiet in the evenings and on weekends. More people living downtown will continue to change that: we will soon have Charlie West, DTK, Garment St, Arrow 2, Market Lofts, Drewlo, Barra and Weber/Scott developments adding maybe 3000 residents to downtown. To be followed by Station Park, Avenue M and Weber/Ontario in short order. With more people will come more retail.

[dtkvictim]

Downtown rarely looks like that, and half the people you see out are people you want to ideally avoid. "Got any change?".

This is a really gross misrepresentation. Please speak about humans with compassion.

Having lived downtown for 3 years now, I think it's completely reasonable to arrive at the conclusion that there are a large number of people you need to avoid while still having compassion for the homeless, mentally unwell, and addicted. I do disagree with him that the "Got any change?" people are the ones to avoid though, for the most part. I want these people to have help and support, but their actions have had a serious impact on my own quality of life and mental well-being.

If there is a proper thread for this topic, I'd love a link to share my experiences and discuss this more in depth.

On topic, the render looks much better than I expected, although I do agree that some aspects of it are misleading.

[tomh009]

A view of the construction site as seen from Duke St

   

[tomh009]

A late-afternoon view from my (deserted) office.

   

[jgsz]

A late-afternoon view from my (deserted) office.

A nice, moody pic.

[mastermind]

A late-afternoon view from my (deserted) office.

A nice, moody pic.

#nofilter

[tomh009]

A nice, moody pic.

#nofilter

Well ... no filter on the phone camera. But white-balance correction (to correct for the building's tinted windows) along with the late-afternoon sun sure did make it look moody.