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Cambridge urban cores - panamaniac - 01-08-2017
I hesitated to open a new thread, but I saw an article in the Record about whether Cambridge's downtown(s) should be made heritage districts. The discussion is spurred by an apparently bad cladding of the red brick Merchants Bank building along the river in Galt, next to the old Post Office. The article has "before and after pictures" and, indeed, the "after" seems hard to digest. Unfortunately, the property owner did not respond to the Record's request for an interview, so there is no indication of why the new cladding was required (deterioration of the brick? water infiltration? need for insulation? the metal siding was on sale?).
It will be interesting to see whether this generates discussion in Cambridge. I don't know to what extent individual buildings in downtown Galt have heritage protection, but the idea of protecting the entire area seems worthy of discussion, at least.
http://www.therecord.com/news-story/7053851-should-cambridge-turn-downtown-cores-into-heritage-districts-/
RE: Cambridge urban cores - Canard - 01-08-2017
It does look terrible, I agree, but I hate the idea of bringing in another layer of control over what people can do on their own property.
RE: Cambridge urban cores - Spokes - 01-08-2017
Wow, that's brutal.
I agree with Canard though, controlling what people can do is not the answer. Even more so in this case because there is a LOT in all three Cambridge cores that shouldn't be protected.
RE: Cambridge urban cores - Drake - 01-08-2017
The cladding is the least of the problems at that address.
RE: Cambridge urban cores - panamaniac - 01-08-2017
(01-08-2017, 10:57 AM)Drake Wrote: The cladding is the least of the problems at that address.
Bad building?
RE: Cambridge urban cores - DHLawrence - 01-09-2017
The problem with making them heritage districts is that it's too late. There are already too many buildings that don't really qualify as heritage (the TD bank in Preston, Cambridge Place in Galt). What would be better is targeting the heritage buildings themselves and putting in new regulations to protect them specifically - and regularly review what's on the list with temporary protection put on buildings that might qualify in future.
RE: Cambridge urban cores - Drake - 01-09-2017
(01-08-2017, 11:00 AM)panamaniac Wrote:(01-08-2017, 10:57 AM)Drake Wrote: The cladding is the least of the problems at that address.
Bad building?
Sorry to be vague. My limited experience with that building left me with the conclusion that it was poorly maintained and run like a soon to be slum. The apartments on the 2nd floor are pretty rough and reminded me of the debacle on Weber St that caused all the drama and eventual closure.
RE: Cambridge urban cores - Viewfromthe42 - 01-09-2017
I really fear for designating core areas in a blanket of heritage. These are the areas that are supposed to be the focal point of a city, where growth and renewal is strongest. I fear that such designations choke off an area, and if the cores of Cambridge were to be closed off to development, Cambridge itself would likely follow the path of Mississauga of all but the last little while, with little urbanization, primarily becoming a suburban sprawl farm, and with people gradually becoming as unaware of Hespeler, Preston, and Galt as Mississauga's residents are of Streetsville.
RE: Cambridge urban cores - nms - 01-09-2017
A better solution would be to designate the area of heritage interest (but not necessarily a lock-stock-and-barrel blanket heritage district) and to make funding and expertise available to property owners who wish to repair their property. Cambridge has been lucky enough to have areas where there is decent urban fabric that preserves some of its historic character. It's no mistake that film crews are more likely to film in the downtown cores of Cambridge than elsewhere in the region.
RE: Cambridge urban cores - panamaniac - 01-09-2017
How much power do municipalities have in terms of setting/enforcing design standards for areas without heritage designation? It seems like not enough.....
RE: Cambridge urban cores - DHLawrence - 01-09-2017
(01-09-2017, 10:24 AM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: I really fear for designating core areas in a blanket of heritage. These are the areas that are supposed to be the focal point of a city, where growth and renewal is strongest. I fear that such designations choke off an area, and if the cores of Cambridge were to be closed off to development, Cambridge itself would likely follow the path of Mississauga of all but the last little while, with little urbanization, primarily becoming a suburban sprawl farm, and with people gradually becoming as unaware of Hespeler, Preston, and Galt as Mississauga's residents are of Streetsville.
Since when were Mississauga residents unaware of Streetsville?
We still have a lot of area available for redevelopment. The whole of the Hespeler Road area between Industrial and Franklin, for starters. A lighter touch will be necessary in the old districts to avoid overwhelming them. It's harder to add density to areas where the roads are already well over the capacity they were designed to sustain. With Preston the solution is easy; get rid of the through traffic. Hespeler and Galt will be much harder.
RE: Cambridge urban cores - rangersfan - 04-13-2017
Cambridge is looking into to different options for heritage protection of buildings along the Grand River in Galt.
http://m.therecord.com/news-story/7240800-cambridge-explores-heritage-protections-for-riverfront-buildings-
RE: Cambridge urban cores - Viewfromthe42 - 03-08-2018
https://www.therecord.com/news-story/8313398-cambridge-reverses-course-on-riverside-park-dam/
"It may be better for fish passage or the wavy-rayed lampmussel and silver shiner or flood control, but the people who flooded councillors with their save-the-dam messages appear to have won out."
Really? After watching Brantford deal with flood, after council will lampoon the costs of proposal after proposal, they'll spend potentially 8 figures for a vista that hurts the environment, hurts fish, and risks flooding Cambridge? Wow.
RE: Cambridge urban cores - bravado - 07-04-2024
Bringing back an old thread for a newer discussion around heritage protection, now that they're at it again:
https://www.cambridgetoday.ca/local-news/not-everyone-happy-with-push-for-hespeler-heritage-conservation-district-8762091
Quote:Not everyone happy with push for Hespeler heritage conservation district
Cambridge architect Patrick Simmons thinks Heritage Conservation Districts are an unnecessary impediment to growth; city calls them essential in protecting unique character
I personally find it a bit grotesque to use the power of the public government to protect buildings and property that the public can't use. The expansion of Heritage™ as yet another exclusionary consultant specialty has frozen so much of our cities in time and protected the incumbent landowners at the expense of anything new. It's a horrible project with a name that nobody could be publicly against and is an awful, awful thing for cities that are supposed to be fluid, growing, and not stagnant.
RE: Cambridge urban cores - plam - 07-05-2024
(07-04-2024, 06:34 PM)bravado Wrote: I personally find it a bit grotesque to use the power of the public government to protect buildings and property that the public can't use. The expansion of Heritage™ as yet another exclusionary consultant specialty has frozen so much of our cities in time and protected the incumbent landowners at the expense of anything new. It's a horrible project with a name that nobody could be publicly against and is an awful, awful thing for cities that are supposed to be fluid, growing, and not stagnant.
Wellington tried to delist a bunch of heritage landmarks in its new plan but got turned down for technical reasons. They're probably going to get delisted following the proper procedure though.
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/17-02-2024/reviewing-wellingtons-newest-heritage-landmark-a-rusty-oil-tank
Quote:Wellington’s independent hearing panel this week recommended a former British Imperial Oil storage tank in Miramar should receive heritage protection in the District Plan. Wellington city council’s heritage evaluators found the tank had value as “an increasingly rare representative example of bulk storage tanks erected nationally in the 1920s”.
The tank is on land owned by Sir Peter Jackson and Dame Fran Walsh, and they are not happy about the heritage listing. They bought the land to build film infrastructure, and rusty oil tanks are not very useful in the movie business. Two of their companies, Wētā FX and Wingnut Films, made submissions asking the panel to reject heritage protections.