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2015 Federal Election - ookpik - 07-30-2015 You can tell the writ is about to drop when Ottawa starts tossing vast amounts of briberymoney around the region. Three cases in point... UW to build massive computer server farm Quote:The University of Waterloo will use its share of a $30-million federal grant to install 11,000 servers in a former BlackBerry building as part of a huge increase in the computational power of a national computer research network. Federal funds launch new program to help university grads find jobs Quote:University graduates unable to find work could benefit from a new program at The Working Centre in Kitchener. Ottawa, Queen’s Park to announce Toyota investments Quote:The federal government will announce a multimillion dollar investment in Toyota’s Ontario manufacturing plants Friday, an announcement that was moved up ahead of the expected election call this weekend. RE: 2015 Federal Election - Markster - 07-30-2015 It certainly feels a rather lot like the "give little bits of money to lots of different things" that the Conservatives were lambasting the Liberals for back in 2006. RE: 2015 Federal Election - timio - 07-30-2015 (07-30-2015, 05:19 PM)ookpik Wrote: You can tell the writ is about to drop... Writs are drawn up, not dropped. Steve Paikin to the rescue! I didn't know this until last year's provincial election. RE: 2015 Federal Election - ookpik - 07-30-2015 Dropping the writ Quote:The phrase "drop the writ" is a debased form of the phrase "draw up the writ", and is still considered stylistically inappropriate in some contexts. For example, in 2005, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation circulated a memorandum on style, directing its journalists not to use the phrase. However, it is commonly used, and has passed into the vernacular. And yet several years later even the CBC couldn't follow their own stylistic rules. Writ drop marks campaign's official kickoff Quote:For weeks now, the phrase "drop the writ" has been popping up in election stories. But what exactly is the writ and why is it being dropped?... RE: 2015 Federal Election - Markster - 07-31-2015 Yeah, it's a pretty simple linguistic corruption: drawn up drawnup draw'up drawp drop And then we all forget that it was ever "drawn", and suddenly we have this cultural momentum that forms around the mental image of something physically dropping. RE: 2015 Federal Election - ookpik - 07-31-2015 (07-31-2015, 01:03 AM)Markster Wrote: Yeah, it's a pretty simple linguistic corruption... It's one of many. It's a natural evolution of language. Quote:And then we all forget that it was ever "drawn", and suddenly we have this cultural momentum that forms around the mental image of something physically dropping. And what's wrong with that? There's a long historical tradition of dropping a flag to start a race so "dropping" a writ to start an election race is actually quite evocative. I do appreciate Pakin's point that the original term was to draw up a writ. This bastardization of the term is far better than the grating use of, say, "should of" for the correct "should have." In any case, let the campaign begin... RE: 2015 Federal Election - Markster - 07-31-2015 (07-31-2015, 08:51 AM)ookpik Wrote: And what's wrong with that?Absolutely nothing! RE: 2015 Federal Election - panamaniac - 07-31-2015 Until the last three posts, I had never associated "dropping the writ" with physically dropping something. Now I won't be able to get it out of my head! RE: 2015 Federal Election - isUsername - 08-01-2015 (07-31-2015, 10:27 AM)panamaniac Wrote: Until the last three posts, I had never associated "dropping the writ" with physically dropping something. Now I won't be able to get it out of my head! I picture the writs being dropped in the same fashion that one does a mic drop. RE: 2015 Federal Election - ookpik - 08-01-2015 (07-31-2015, 10:27 AM)panamaniac Wrote: Until the last three posts, I had never associated "dropping the writ" with physically dropping something. Now I won't be able to get it out of my head! So the penny finally dropped -- without anyone having to drop a dime on you RE: 2015 Federal Election - Canard - 10-10-2015 So advance polling is open this weekend! Get out there and vote. I did but the polling station I went to must have still been figuring things out, because they were only processing about 60-90 PPH max. I got there 10 minutes before opening and still waited over 20 minutes. This should be a 15-seconds per person tops kinda thing. RE: 2015 Federal Election - ookpik - 10-10-2015 (10-10-2015, 02:27 PM)Canard Wrote: I did but the polling station I went to must have still been figuring things out, because they were only processing about 60-90 PPH max. I got there 10 minutes before opening and still waited over 20 minutes. This should be a 15-seconds per person tops kinda thing. According to Dr Google advance polls have been moving slowly across the land, e.g. Long lines slow Winnipeg voters on 1st day of advance polls Advance polls: long waits and a protest clown [Montréal] LETTER: ADVANCE POLLING DELAYS ARE AN AFFRONT TO DEMOCRACY [Ottawa] Advance polls slow [Owen Sound] Uxbridge advance polls are slow ahead of election day The good news is that at least some of this is due to the large number of people who are showing up to vote. That bodes well for those who want to see a change in government. OTOH there are reports that the slowness is in part the result of the "reforms" in Steve's Unfair Elections Act. Added... Some news reports attribute slowness at the advance polls to the requirement that voters must complete registration forms in writing. Apparently Elections Canada can't use the details they already have in the database that produced the poll notification cards they mailed out a couple of weeks ago to pre-fill the registration forms (or do with the registration forms altogether.) Welcome to the 21st century in voting technology. RE: 2015 Federal Election - Canard - 10-10-2015 Yeah - I witnessed this today. Part of the 1-1.5 minutes it took per person to vote was that the clerk first had to locate my name on a list, stroke it off, and then had to copy down all the information from the voter card onto some kind of form or log book (which I then signed). This had to be done for every single voter. Why can't they just buy a couple thousand iPads and use the Touch ID pad, you just touch that, press one button for who you want to vote for and you're done in 3 seconds? Or (gasp!) vote online??? It's frickin' 2015. I spend a lot of my vacations at theme parks and over the past 20 years have spent hundreds if not thousands of hours in queue lines watching operations and studying inefficiencies in real life, and it drives me absolutely bonkers to see just how bad and embarrassingly ancient this process was/still is. RE: 2015 Federal Election - plam - 10-10-2015 I profess software engineering. I don't trust software with something as important as an election. The problem is that if there is no audit trail, it is really easy to steal an election and no one would know. People have thought about this problem a lot. The cities do have voting machines which leave an audit trail. They're fine. It is not the voting itself that takes a lot of time. It is the paperwork leading up to the vote. RE: 2015 Federal Election - ijmorlan - 10-10-2015 (10-10-2015, 04:28 PM)Canard Wrote: Why can't they just buy a couple thousand iPads and use the Touch ID pad, you just touch that, press one button for who you want to vote for and you're done in 3 seconds? Or (gasp!) vote online??? It's frickin' 2015. Because it cannot be done securely with current technology. Period. End of story. Anybody who argues otherwise either is not a security expert or is trying to sell voting machines. It may be possible with future technology, but personally I doubt it. The reasons it cannot be done securely now aren’t things like insufficient storage space or processor power that might reasonably be expected to get better with time; instead, there is a fundamental conflict between the requirement for a secret ballot and the requirement for auditability. The usual comparison you may have heard with banking security is completely invalid because in banking transactions are not secret. In case it’s not clear, when I say it’s “completely invalid”, you may take that as an accusation of dishonesty or incompetence against anybody advancing the argument — either the person is lying, or they are falsely presenting themselves as implicitly knowledgeable in computer security. I myself am not a computer security expert, but I know enough about the subject to know what I know and don’t know. The real fix to long lines is simply to provide sufficient resources, or to change the way the process is organized. It just now occurred to me that it could work to make an appointment online to vote, then show up at the appointed time. The system could manage the appointments so there is essentially no waiting time at the polling place. I don’t believe there is any serious fundamental security problem with using computers to book a time to vote. This would also provide knowledge ahead of time that certain times were popular, which could allow provisioning additional resources only when needed. |