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Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - Spokes - 02-28-2019 Kitchener resident proposes turning Gaukel Street into a pedestrian promenade Quote:Sam Nabi was walking downtown on a recent Sunday, when he looked down Gaukel Street from city hall, and got an idea.https://www.therecord.com/news-story/9197502-kitchener-resident-proposes-turning-gaukel-street-into-a-pedestrian-promenade/ RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - Rainrider22 - 02-28-2019 (02-28-2019, 09:30 AM)Spokes Wrote: Kitchener resident proposes turning Gaukel Street into a pedestrian promenadeIt is a brilliant idea. It is a road that isnt required now. And when the Bus terminal shuts down, even less... Lets hope it goes through.... RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - Spokes - 02-28-2019 Ya, you could phase it in. It's closed right now, so when construction doesn't need it closed, just don't open it. Then eventually, open it on the other side of Charles. RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - MidTowner - 02-28-2019 I seem to recall one or more users here musing about this in the past. It's a great idea; I hope it has legs. It would be a wonderful thing for downtown Kitchener. RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - Spokes - 02-28-2019 (02-28-2019, 10:58 AM)MidTowner Wrote: I seem to recall one or more users here musing about this in the past. It's a great idea; I hope it has legs. It would be a wonderful thing for downtown Kitchener. Its definitely gotten some discussion. I think that it's crossed the Mayors desk and he's publicly stated he likes the idea automatically gives it some legs. The nice thing is that there isn't much as far as businesses that would complain RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - tomh009 - 02-28-2019 (02-28-2019, 10:16 AM)Spokes Wrote: Ya, you could phase it in. It's closed right now, so when construction doesn't need it closed, just don't open it. Then eventually, open it on the other side of Charles. It should really be pedestrians only between Charles and Joseph, too. But for now we need bus access ... RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - JJTL - 02-28-2019 This would be awesome! What a great alignment from City Hall/King Street to Victoria Park. As per the article, once the bus terminal moves you could have a complete pedestrian promenade to the park. One small road block that popped into my mind though is the new Charlie West development. Is the underground parking access for Charlies West not Hall's Lane (which is one way) and so in bound from Water and out bound from Gaukel? Maybe make Hall's Lane 2-way and have the access from Water only? RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - Spokes - 02-28-2019 The article talks about keeping vehicular traffic on halls lane, but you're right, that would be an issue. RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - robdrimmie - 02-28-2019 We talked about Hall's lane a bit in the conversation here about this idea (I can't find it though, I'm really bad at searching here). There's other parking that's only accessible from Hall's lane as well I think, between Gaukel and Ontario. But if cars have to enter Hall's from Water and exit from Ontario I don't think it would be terribly problematic. They would cross Guakel but there would be far less vehicle traffic than on Charles anyway. RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - ijmorlan - 02-28-2019 (02-28-2019, 02:00 PM)robdrimmie Wrote: We talked about Hall's lane a bit in the conversation here about this idea (I can't find it though, I'm really bad at searching here). There's other parking that's only accessible from Hall's lane as well I think, between Gaukel and Ontario. But if cars have to enter Hall's from Water and exit from Ontario I don't think it would be terribly problematic. They would cross Guakel but there would be far less vehicle traffic than on Charles anyway. Definitely having Hall’s Lane cross Gaukel is not a problem. Some might object to having no cross streets for Hall’s Lane between Water and Ontario, although I think it would be fine. If it’s considered a problem, however, Gaukel could always allow motor vehicle traffic between Charles and Hall’s Lane. There wouldn’t be much — really just access into the locations on Hall’s Lane. At any rate it’s not a reason to say no to the whole project. RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - JJTL - 02-28-2019 (02-28-2019, 02:00 PM)robdrimmie Wrote: We talked about Hall's lane a bit in the conversation here about this idea (I can't find it though, I'm really bad at searching here). There's other parking that's only accessible from Hall's lane as well I think, between Gaukel and Ontario. But if cars have to enter Hall's from Water and exit from Ontario I don't think it would be terribly problematic. They would cross Guakel but there would be far less vehicle traffic than on Charles anyway. Great point and agreed, based on the low volume of traffic on Hall's Lane it's reasonable to use Ontario as the exit street and just cross Gaukel. RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - jamincan - 02-28-2019 I don't think crossing Gaukel is necessarily a terrible thing (though pedestrians ought to have the right of way), but it seems to me they could just as easily make Halls Lane two-way. Sure, you couldn't get two fire trucks through there at the same time but it's not unreasonably tight for a back lane. RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - samnabi - 02-28-2019 I'm definitely not the first to propose a Gaukel Greenway, and I would hate for this to be branded as "my idea". In fact there was a great discussion on this forum in the GRT thread: http://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/showthread.php?tid=13&pid=56067#pid56067 Gaukel as a "ceremonial connection" between the Park and City Hall is enshrined in the PARTS planning documents. Also the new redesign of Zehr Square uses design elements that orient it toward the park. It seems we've been circling around the issue for years, but now I believe the timing is perfect to move quickly and get a light, quick, cheap implementation before the Charlie West construction finishes. After the initial Twitter discussion, a group of about a dozen folks worked to put this proposal together: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zhg8UjWWwBjQltF-B1N1TKqYJvhQKggo/view?usp=sharing We're now planning our next in-person meeting to organize around the proposal. PM me if you're interested in helping out. We are working on setting up meetings with City Staff, North Inc, Accelerator Centre / 44 Gaukel, Councillors, Downtown BIA, and the Mayor so far. RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - KevinL - 02-28-2019 It may not be fully your idea, Sam, but your advocacy and drive on this is appreciated! You've been able to bring it fully into the public eye and show it's supported by Downtown residents and stakeholders beyond City Hall itself. RE: Gaukel Street Pedestrian Promenade - samnabi - 02-28-2019 If anyone knows someone who lives at Heartwood Place (the small apartment beside North offices), I'd love to bring them into the discussion. |