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RE: Election Results Discussion - chutten - 10-23-2018
Ranked ballots are in for Cambridge's 2022 election according to CBC: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/cambridge-ranked-ballot-referendum-1.4874304
RE: Election Results Discussion - Spokes - 10-23-2018
(10-23-2018, 07:27 AM)danbrotherston Wrote:(10-23-2018, 06:45 AM)Spokes Wrote: How on earth could ranked ballots not pass? Opposition to any sort of change?
*sigh*...pathetic.
It did pass in Kingston however.
Even better, despite the extended process that's totally unnecessary, but still happening in London, there's a good chance they'll get their results before us.
I'm curious about the feedback in London when it's all said and done.
RE: Election Results Discussion - Spokes - 10-23-2018
(10-23-2018, 08:23 AM)chutten Wrote: Ranked ballots are in for Cambridge's 2022 election according to CBC: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/cambridge-ranked-ballot-referendum-1.4874304
Ok I'm relieved by this. Glad ranked ballots aren't dead.
I'm curious if the rest of WR would just implement this or if they'll demand a referendum first
RE: Election Results Discussion - bgb_ca - 10-23-2018
(10-23-2018, 06:45 AM)Spokes Wrote:(10-22-2018, 11:44 PM)fakepnijjar Wrote: Woo 33% percent turnout in Cambridge. Ranked ballots are dead. Surprise surprise.
How on earth could ranked ballots not pass? Opposition to any sort of change?
This CBC article says it passed. So what is right?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/cambridge-ranked-ballot-referendum-1.4874304
RE: Election Results Discussion - trainspotter139 - 10-23-2018
(10-23-2018, 08:42 AM)bgb_ca Wrote:(10-23-2018, 06:45 AM)Spokes Wrote: How on earth could ranked ballots not pass? Opposition to any sort of change?
This CBC article says it passed. So what is right?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/cambridge-ranked-ballot-referendum-1.4874304
It's dead because the Cambridge Referendum required at least 50% turnout
RE: Election Results Discussion - danbrotherston - 10-23-2018
(10-23-2018, 09:01 AM)trainspotter139 Wrote:(10-23-2018, 08:42 AM)bgb_ca Wrote: This CBC article says it passed. So what is right?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/cambridge-ranked-ballot-referendum-1.4874304
It's dead because the Cambridge Referendum required at least 50% turnout
That's different, I believe it's non-binding, but still passed, council could say nothing, but much like the non-binding Brexit vote, they will probably do *something*.
Maybe not a sure thing, but hardly dead.
RE: Election Results Discussion - trainspotter139 - 10-23-2018
(10-23-2018, 09:23 AM)danbrotherston Wrote:(10-23-2018, 09:01 AM)trainspotter139 Wrote: It's dead because the Cambridge Referendum required at least 50% turnout
That's different, I believe it's non-binding, but still passed, council could say nothing, but much like the non-binding Brexit vote, they will probably do *something*.
Maybe not a sure thing, but hard
Quote:"The municipality is not in a position to proceed with the ranked ballot for the next election because we did not have a 50 per cent voter turnout, which the Municipal Elections Act requires in order for a referendum to be binding," said Michael Di Lullo, Cambridge's city clerk.https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/cambridge-ranked-ballot-referendum-1.4874304
RE: Election Results Discussion - panamaniac - 10-23-2018
(10-23-2018, 09:52 AM)trainspotter139 Wrote:(10-23-2018, 09:23 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: That's different, I believe it's non-binding, but still passed, council could say nothing, but much like the non-binding Brexit vote, they will probably do *something*.
Maybe not a sure thing, but hardQuote:"The municipality is not in a position to proceed with the ranked ballot for the next election because we did not have a 50 per cent voter turnout, which the Municipal Elections Act requires in order for a referendum to be binding," said Michael Di Lullo, Cambridge's city clerk.https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/cambridge-ranked-ballot-referendum-1.4874304
Although a referendum is not a prerequisite, is it?
RE: Election Results Discussion - JoeKW - 10-23-2018
Cambridge was never going to get 50% turnout... This is really the best case scenario.
RE: Election Results Discussion - danbrotherston - 10-23-2018
The 50% requirement is for a referendum to be binding.
I think the clerk is either wrong, or more likely misquoted, the lack of a binding referendum does not preclude ranked ballots, London had no referendum, and used ranked ballots, and I cannot find anything in the Municipal Elections Act which states a referendum is required.
Certainly, the council can choose to ignore the result, but I believe they could also choose to use ranked ballots in 2022, although, that was true without the referendum as well.
RE: Election Results Discussion - panamaniac - 10-23-2018
(10-23-2018, 10:05 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: The 50% requirement is for a referendum to be binding.
I think the clerk is either wrong, or more likely misquoted, the lack of a binding referendum does not preclude ranked ballots, London had no referendum, and used ranked ballots, and I cannot find anything in the Municipal Elections Act which states a referendum is required.
Certainly, the council can choose to ignore the result, but I believe they could also choose to use ranked ballots in 2022, although, that was true without the referendum as well.
Did the new mayor have a position on ranked ballots, I wonder?
RE: Election Results Discussion - tomh009 - 10-23-2018
(10-22-2018, 10:22 PM)tomh009 Wrote:(10-22-2018, 10:11 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: I am a bit shocked at how well the old, white, male candidates are doing this evening.
If there were ever a time for younger or non-male or non-white candidates I thought this was the time.
I think we will actually end up with fewer women and non-white elected officials than the previous term. Not very reflective of our diverse community.
Kitchener looks to have five female councillors going forward (wards 4, 5, 8, 9 and 10). I think the outgoing council had only three. Paul Singh will again, I think, be the only non-white councillor.
Female majority on the Waterloo city council as well. So I think your shock was a little premature.
RE: Election Results Discussion - bgb_ca - 10-23-2018
(10-23-2018, 09:01 AM)trainspotter139 Wrote:(10-23-2018, 08:42 AM)bgb_ca Wrote: This CBC article says it passed. So what is right?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/cambridge-ranked-ballot-referendum-1.4874304
It's dead because the Cambridge Referendum required at least 50% turnout
Ah they changed the article after... Stupid CBC
RE: Election Results Discussion - jgsz - 10-23-2018
In other election news, it looks like Hamilton's LRT division is far from over. The pro-LRT mayor, Fred Eisenberger, was re-elected but council is split on the issue. And in Toronto, irritating clown Giorgio Mammoliti was defeated.
RE: Election Results Discussion - JoeKW - 10-23-2018
(10-23-2018, 10:37 AM)jgsz Wrote: And in Toronto, irritating clown Giorgio Mammoliti was defeated.
I imagine he'll end up working for Doug in no time...