Grand River Transit - Printable Version +- Waterloo Region Connected (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com) +-- Forum: Waterloo Region Works (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=14) +--- Forum: Transportation and Infrastructure (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=25) +--- Thread: Grand River Transit (/showthread.php?tid=13) Pages:
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RE: Grand River Transit - KevinL - 10-25-2023 The student body certainly has far fewer drivers now than ever, given the international contingent, so a successful referendum is no surprise. RE: Grand River Transit - KevinT - 10-25-2023 (10-24-2023, 09:47 PM)nms Wrote: Students at Conestoga College may get a transit U-Pass next fall (CBC) Sanity prevails. Thanks, for posting that. RE: Grand River Transit - KevinL - 11-24-2023 A new severe weather plan is being rolled out this winter; during freezing rain or heavy snow, certain stops will be skipped and some routes will have minor adjustments, to keep buses from getting stuck. Details here: https://www.grt.ca/en/rider-information/severe-weather-events.aspx RE: Grand River Transit - ac3r - 11-24-2023 Wow. It's like they're trying their hardest to make transit unpalatable to people. People are going to choose driving over walking to an even further bus stop in the dead of winter - myself included. Can't rely on this joke of a transit agency anymore. RE: Grand River Transit - Acitta - 11-24-2023 (11-24-2023, 04:46 PM)ac3r Wrote: Wow. It's like they're trying their hardest to make transit unpalatable to people. People are going to choose driving over walking to an even further bus stop in the dead of winter - myself included. Can't rely on this joke of a transit agency anymore. Transit users are not suddenly going to be able to afford a car because of a day of bad weather. RE: Grand River Transit - plam - 11-24-2023 (11-24-2023, 04:46 PM)ac3r Wrote: Wow. It's like they're trying their hardest to make transit unpalatable to people. People are going to choose driving over walking to an even further bus stop in the dead of winter - myself included. Can't rely on this joke of a transit agency anymore. Sometimes you have to make choices. Like, if the bus gets stuck somewhere (which I've seen outside Vincenzo's) then no one gets to take the bus. What is your productive suggestion here? RE: Grand River Transit - ac3r - 11-24-2023 (11-24-2023, 06:44 PM)plam Wrote:(11-24-2023, 04:46 PM)ac3r Wrote: Wow. It's like they're trying their hardest to make transit unpalatable to people. People are going to choose driving over walking to an even further bus stop in the dead of winter - myself included. Can't rely on this joke of a transit agency anymore. To get my Nissan GT-R out of storage, slap on some snow tires and avoid transit as much as possible over the winter. I have enough horsepower in that thing I could drag that pictured bus out of the snow. RE: Grand River Transit - ijmorlan - 11-24-2023 Actually I’d rather they have a specific plan for extreme weather rather than just blundering along until many buses are stuck. Interesting that they don’t have anything for the LRT. Does that mean they’re planning on having the overhead electrical supply work properly in nasty weather like it does in other countries? RE: Grand River Transit - dtkvictim - 11-24-2023 (11-24-2023, 05:30 PM)Acitta Wrote: Transit users are not suddenly going to be able to afford a car because of a day of bad weather. If the only people using transit are those who can't afford cars then it's already a failure to a significant degree. I don't think this plan is necessarily any significant issue, but your comment does nothing to disprove that many people can chose or chose not to take transit based on service quality, consistency, and potential for degradation. RE: Grand River Transit - neonjoe - 11-24-2023 (11-24-2023, 07:32 PM)ijmorlan Wrote: Actually I’d rather they have a specific plan for extreme weather rather than just blundering along until many buses are stuck. Keolis problem RE: Grand River Transit - taylortbb - 11-25-2023 (11-24-2023, 04:46 PM)ac3r Wrote: Wow. It's like they're trying their hardest to make transit unpalatable to people. People are going to choose driving over walking to an even further bus stop in the dead of winter - myself included. Can't rely on this joke of a transit agency anymore. Even major systems like the TTC close stops in severe weather. It's not policy, it's physics. When everything is covered in ice, it's just not possible to serve certain stops, and attempting to do so just gets the bus stuck making service worse for everyone else. The whole point of this plan is to minimize the number of passengers inconvenienced by severe weather. Right now the bus gets stuck, and the run gets cancelled, and everyone misses their bus. With the new plan certain stops get skipped, but the bus doesn't get stuck, and everyone else on the route still has a bus show up and still gets to work. I'd think this would improve ridership, given that for most customers it's a significant improvement in service reliability during severe weather. And for those whose bus stops are closed, at least they know, rather than standing there waiting forever for a bus that's gotten stuck. RE: Grand River Transit - danbrotherston - 11-25-2023 Also, can we stop pretending that if there's snow and ice and such inclement weather that driving isn't problematic. RE: Grand River Transit - danbrotherston - 11-25-2023 (11-24-2023, 05:30 PM)Acitta Wrote:(11-24-2023, 04:46 PM)ac3r Wrote: Wow. It's like they're trying their hardest to make transit unpalatable to people. People are going to choose driving over walking to an even further bus stop in the dead of winter - myself included. Can't rely on this joke of a transit agency anymore. I am going to assume in good faith that you mean that people who do not have any other options should not have their plans disrupted rather than that transit won't lose riders because the only people riding transit are those with no choice, and address that point. Yes, we should try to meet the needs of people, and people should not be disadvantaged by riding transit. But weather affects travel. We can do things to minimize this disruption, but our society should also do more to accommodate it. One of the many things I will not forgive UW for is making me drive in through a blizzard to the UW building for an interview at 8:30 am. The interviewers had the sense not to come in, but I was told I would be kicked out of co-op if I did the smart thing. But the fact is, many people who DID try to come in that day did not make it, many people were in the ditch on the side of the road as I was driving in. I don't know if anyone died, but it's not impossible, or even unlikely. So yeah, weather affects travel. The problem I have is when we're looking at a tiny amount of freezing rain, when everyone else, buses, cars, even people walking, seem to be able to manage, and our LRT is shut down because we refuse to invest in proper maintenance....but if buses can't get through the roads which are maintained as well as we can possibly manage because they are primarily used by cars and our society prioritizes cars above everything else, well then I'm quite content to say that it is reasonable that there will be disruptions. RE: Grand River Transit - Acitta - 11-25-2023 (11-25-2023, 07:14 AM)danbrotherston Wrote:(11-24-2023, 05:30 PM)Acitta Wrote: Transit users are not suddenly going to be able to afford a car because of a day of bad weather. It is unreasonable to expect to be able to travel during a winter blizzard as easily as it is to travel on a sunny summer day. It is unreasonable for employers to act as if it is. You have to expect that some days you are going to be late or that it is better to stay home. RE: Grand River Transit - ac3r - 11-25-2023 If snow removal is an issue then they should copy what Toronto did. They contacted out cement and dump trucks which they attached plows to so that they could have more trucks on the road. |