+- Waterloo Region Connected (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com)
+-- Forum: Land Development and Real Estate (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=4)
+--- Forum: Urban Areas (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=5)
+--- Thread: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours (/showthread.php?tid=8)
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
159
160
161
162
163
164
165
166
167
168
169
170
171
172
173
174
175
176
177
178
179
180
181
182
183
184
185
186
187
188
189
190
191
192
193
194
195
196
197
198
199
200
201
202
203
204
205
206
207
208
209
210
211
212
213
214
215
216
217
218
219
220
221
222
223
224
225
226
227
228
229
230
231
232
233
234
235
236
237
238
239
240
241
242
243
244
245
246
247
248
249
250
251
252
253
254
255
256
257
258
259
260
261
262
263
264
265
266
267
268
269
270
271
272
273
274
275
276
277
278
279
280
281
282
283
284
285
286
287
288
289
290
291
292
293
294
295
296
297
298
299
300
301
302
303
304
305
306
307
308
309
310
311
312
313
314
315
316
317
318
319
320
321
322
323
324
325
326
327
328
329
330
331
332
333
334
335
336
337
338
339
340
341
342
343
344
345
346
347
348
349
350
351
352
353
354
355
356
357
358
359
360
361
362
363
364
365
366
367
368
369
370
371
372
373
374
375
376
377
378
379
380
381
382
383
384
385
386
387
388
389
390
391
392
393
394
395
396
397
398
399
400
401
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - jeffster - 10-29-2020
(10-28-2020, 08:21 PM)tomh009 Wrote:(10-28-2020, 07:10 PM)Acitta Wrote: Construction still continuing at furious pace in Kitchener
"From June 2019 to June of this year, the city issued permits for 3,672 residential units. That’s almost triple the number of units built the year before, when permits were issued for 1,302 units."
Notably 2,745 multi-residential units. This is what I am able to come up with, but I am clearly missing some (one of the Garment buildings, likely)That's only 1,921, so the one missing Garment St building is not enough. Station Park, Ophelia and Civic 66 are all after the end of June.
- Drewlo - 488
- Market Flats - 72
- 387 King St E - 60
- DTK - 300
- Charlie West - 300
- Garment St (27F) - 319
- Young Condos - 306
- 1430 Highland Rd W - 76
Ok, but weren't most of those permitted *before* June 2019? I mean, many of those were already under construction.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - danbrotherston - 10-29-2020
(10-29-2020, 10:46 AM)ac3r Wrote: Understood!
It's a bit annoying how the process works. They've got the land, developed a massive project, demolished the old building, cleaned the site up, built a sales centre, started advertising yet don't have the permit.
I am by no means an expert, but I am assuming that the construction permit is different from permission to build something. Even the bank will loan you funds for a renovation before you get a permit from the city to do those renovations.
This isn't like they started selling units before receiving zoning variance to build what they are selling.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 10-29-2020
(10-29-2020, 01:30 PM)jeffster Wrote:(10-28-2020, 08:21 PM)tomh009 Wrote: Notably 2,745 multi-residential units. This is what I am able to come up with, but I am clearly missing some (one of the Garment buildings, likely)That's only 1,921, so the one missing Garment St building is not enough. Station Park, Ophelia and Civic 66 are all after the end of June.
- Drewlo - 488
- Market Flats - 72
- 387 King St E - 60
- DTK - 300
- Charlie West - 300
- Garment St (27F) - 319
- Young Condos - 306
- 1430 Highland Rd W - 76
Ok, but weren't most of those permitted *before* June 2019? I mean, many of those were already under construction.
I checked, and they were not. Many of them had demolition or foundation permits, but not ones for the actual buildings.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - bgb_ca - 10-29-2020
(10-28-2020, 07:38 PM)Momo26 Wrote: Another one bites the dust.
Just walked by Symposium uptown Waterloo - lease terminated.
Mostly because new Boardwalk location you reckon?
That one was a few months ago.
https://www.waterloochronicle.ca/news-story/10023915-uptown-waterloo-s-symposium-caf-closes-permanently/
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - KevinL - 10-30-2020
UW is planning to expand the Health Sciences campus next to the School of Pharmacy with a 90,000 square foot, $35 million addition: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/university-of-waterloo-new-health-facility-kitchener-1.5782101
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 10-30-2020
(10-30-2020, 10:31 AM)KevinL Wrote: UW is planning to expand the Health Sciences campus next to the School of Pharmacy with a 90,000 square foot, $35 million addition: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/university-of-waterloo-new-health-facility-kitchener-1.5782101
If my reading comprehension is OK, then it's a refurbishment of the existing warehouse building on Joseph St, rather than a new construction.
UW Accelerator Centre would also move there, freeing up space in the Tannery.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - KevinL - 10-30-2020
Ah yes, I believe you're correct. Looks like the warehouse is a solid two storeys, should be quite the refurb.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - danbrotherston - 10-30-2020
I mean, I'm all for reuse, but a warehouse isn't exactly a great formfactor for that area. That being said, my bigger concern is the giant surface parking lot...but given UWs parking policy both on their main campus and next door at the Pharmacy building, I'm not hopeful.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - westwardloo - 10-30-2020
$35 million seems like a lot for a warehouse retrofit. But I haven't seen any renderings or plans, hopefully the exterior renovations are high-end. I would love to see them build a new building in the existing parking lot or in the field near the tracks. I assume that is the eventual plan as they expand their health sciences department over the coming decades. I think this is a good investment for the region. There isn't much of a focus in the health sector in this region, so there is a lot of room to grow. I don't think we will ever become a London or Hamilton when it comes to healthcare, but there could be huge employment growth in this sector over the next couple decades, which will benefit the region.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - taylortbb - 10-30-2020
(10-30-2020, 12:19 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: I mean, I'm all for reuse, but a warehouse isn't exactly a great formfactor for that area. That being said, my bigger concern is the giant surface parking lot...but given UWs parking policy both on their main campus and next door at the Pharmacy building, I'm not hopeful.
$35M buys a lot of warehouse renovation. I can see the project being a renovation like Breithaupt Block phase 2, which is barely recognizable as the former building. Probably without the added storeys on top, but still. It may not be super dense, but I don't think UW needs that much space just yet.
You're right that the parking policy is more of a problem. I think that rules out that corner of Victoria/Joseph for any redevelopment any time soon, UW loves their surface parking. Given the hints made here about a redevelopment project on that corner, I wonder if the owner of The Tannery is thinking about something for the Deloitte parking lot.
(10-30-2020, 03:01 PM)westwardloo Wrote: I would love to see them build a new building in the existing parking lot or in the field near the tracks. I assume that is the eventual plan as they expand their health sciences department over the coming decades.
The university doesn't own the field by the tracks. There's three properties here, the current pharmacy/med school property, the warehouse property, and the landlocked property by the tracks. The field by the tracks is so heavily contaminated that the owner couldn't sell it for $1, as no one wants to take on the liability for cleaning it up. Nevermind the problems of being landlocked. It'll be a long time before we see anything happen in that field.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - creative - 10-31-2020
https://www.therecord.com/news/waterloo-region/2020/10/29/city-proposes-85-million-to-help-redevelop-the-90000-square-foot-warehouse-on-joseph-street.html
Includes render.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Acitta - 10-31-2020
(10-31-2020, 08:05 AM)creative Wrote: https://www.therecord.com/news/waterloo-region/2020/10/29/city-proposes-85-million-to-help-redevelop-the-90000-square-foot-warehouse-on-joseph-street.htmlHere is a direct link to the render. 280 Joseph concept
Includes render.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 10-31-2020
I like the look of that - the saw-tooth skylights give it a bit of an industrial look.
Re the contaminiation of the neighbouring site, is there a source for this? I'm wondering why that area would be more contaminated than the rest of the old Goodrich site
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - neonjoe - 10-31-2020
The site was Epton Industries.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - ac3r - 10-31-2020
The materials don't look the greatest...I can picture a similar building without the metal cladding, maybe keeping the original brick and using some CORTEN steel around the windows, but still, it's nice to see UW building another campus building here.