(11-29-2017, 03:09 PM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: Galt, Preston, and Hespeler will soon be as forgotten as Streetsville, because they will atrophy at their current residents' request.

(11-29-2017, 04:09 PM)Waterlooer Wrote: Can Cambridge even be compared to Mississauga? That city has always been a suburban mess with no potential for a decent downtown core. Downtown Cambridge (which is currently located in Galt and I can't see that changing anytime soon) has the prettiest, most unique core in our region in my opinion. Hespeler road might intensify and become more urban, but there is no doubt in my mind that the current downtown will fade away.

Clarkson, Lakeview, Cooksville, Erindale, Sheridan, Dixie, Meadowvale Village and Malton might disagree with you. And if you visit Streetsville, you might disagree with yourself   but they are indeed good examples of multiples cores getting combined into one city, and with none really stepping up to the plate when it comes to intensification, atrophy they did. If you consider Cambridge as the least intensification-friendly of the tri-cities in our region of almost 600,000, you can see why Uptown and Downtown are getting the love while Cambridge will largely be shaped by the owners of Hespeler Road properties.

(11-29-2017, 02:19 PM)DHLawrence Wrote: Having the central terminal in Galt has also been a logistical nightmare for people in the rest of town trying to get somewhere on the bus that isn't Galt. Getting from Preston to Hespeler either required a trip down to Galt or two changes minimum. (I think you still have to change twice but the change points are closer together).

There's not a whole lot of "growing up" Galt can do. A few low-rise infill projects at most. Hespeler Road is a blank slate; there isn't a single thing along that road of even the faintest architectural or sentimental value. The old cores will become satellites to the real downtown; this will be a lot more for old Galtonians to swallow than residents of the rest of the city. (You think Cambridge vs Kitchener-Waterloo is bad?)

(11-29-2017, 03:25 PM)KevinT Wrote: North Cambridge is a real puzzle.  I like V/W/X to avoid a large chunk of Eagle St, and M/M1 is an interesting way of feeding into that, but how do you make the turn from King St onto M?  I find myself dreaming of some magical way to put a tunnel under the 401 right, about, here:


It's short, and you wouldn't have to worry about any homes or buildings, so it could be done by cut-and-cover methods or even just as a trench with three portals under the 401 and King/ramp complexes.  But would the MTO let them???

Also, where do you put the Preston stop if they go with M/M1 to V/W/X?  It would be neat in the park, but that torpedoes bus connections.

I don't envy them this game, but can't wait to see how it all works out.

(11-30-2017, 12:41 AM)dunkalunk Wrote: I believe an option for a Park and Ride and GO transfer facilities are being explored at Pinebush, as there is the land nearby there to do so.

(11-29-2017, 04:43 PM)DHLawrence Wrote: And what do they look like? Strip malls, industrial parks, and suburban sprawl. Galt, Preston, and Hespeler have urban cores and a built environment that could easily be enhanced with proper planning. Same with Streetsville and Port Credit. They haven't become suburban anonymity. You've contradicted yourself in your argument.

(11-30-2017, 10:01 AM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: [quote pid='45571' dateline='1511988219']
Those areas were once actual cores, but in being absorbed into Mississauga and not pushing to be a hub, they became an indistinguishable part of the landscape. Streetsville and Port Credit are somewhat alive, about the only ones which can say that, but as mentioned are known for their GO stop rather than what little development and intent exists there. The only people who know, are pointed to, or see value in those areas are the locals, and usually older ones at that. I would compare it to my own experience, as someone incredibly engaged in the region, I have visited Galt perhaps a half dozen times in over a dozen years, have strolled Preston once, and have never been to Hespeler. I'm not proud of it, but it's what the focus (or non-focus) residents have put on those areas has achieved.