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SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - Bytor - 09-22-2020

Proposed massive development by SmartCentres would establish 'improved gateway' to Cambridge

SmartCentres seeking city council approval of Minister's Zoning Order for Pinebush and Hespeler roads site

https://www.cambridgetimes.ca/news-story/10204691-proposed-massive-development-by-smartcentres-would-establish-improved-gateway-to-cambridge/

As a mixed-use development, it is kind neat, but this idea of an unappealable Ministerial zoning order is very concerning.


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - jeffster - 09-23-2020

(09-22-2020, 09:38 PM)Bytor Wrote: Proposed massive development by SmartCentres would establish 'improved gateway' to Cambridge

SmartCentres seeking city council approval of Minister's Zoning Order for Pinebush and Hespeler roads site

https://www.cambridgetimes.ca/news-story/10204691-proposed-massive-development-by-smartcentres-would-establish-improved-gateway-to-cambridge/

As a mixed-use development, it is kind neat, but this idea of an unappealable Ministerial zoning order is very concerning.

Nice. Hopefully they can put it through. The project looks massive though. Oh, bonus points, no potential for NIMBY’s in this area. I like the idea of Cambridge looking like a city, and the region looking like a it has a population of 600,000+....


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - urbanprotocol - 09-23-2020

Well this one is certainly ambitious


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - panamaniac - 09-23-2020

Could one be sceptical of the idea of this as a "gateway" to Cambridge? Seems more likely to me to be filled with commuters to Mississagua and Toronto.


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - ac3r - 09-23-2020

It's basically a Vaughan Metropolitan Centre or Square One Shopping Centre, but in Cambridge. A suburban development with high rises...not exactly something I like to see, but I understand why they get developed. I'm really skeptical that this would become a "gateway to Cambridge" if it is placing more density, residents and businesses in a suburban area beside a highway rather the actual core of the city itself.

Edit: This thread should perhaps be moved to the Suburbs section, as it's far away from downtown like Grand Market District is.


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - Bjays93 - 09-23-2020

(09-23-2020, 10:11 AM)ac3r Wrote: Edit: This thread should perhaps be moved to the Suburbs section, as it's far away from downtown like Grand Market District is.
I second this. Its literally about as suburban as you can get in cambridge. Its smack in the middle of the no mans land between all 3 cambridge downtowns.


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - taylortbb - 09-23-2020

There's significant discussion in the general thread, starting at https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/showthread.php?tid=6&pid=84409#pid84409 . Maybe mods can move the posts?


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - ijmorlan - 09-23-2020

The location is suburban, but depending on how it is built and the range of uses on site it could be the most big-city thing in the Region. Potentially there could be effectively a town of several thousand people together with all their services on that one site, connected by high-quality public transit to the other towns and cities in the Region.

Of course we’ll probably just get a bunch of parking with towers in it hostile to pedestrians, so that it’s perfectly normal to drive from an apartment in one tower to a store in a commercial block a short distance over.


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - tomh009 - 09-23-2020

(09-23-2020, 12:44 PM)taylortbb Wrote: There's significant discussion in the general thread, starting at https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/showthread.php?tid=6&pid=84409#pid84409 . Maybe mods can move the posts?

'tis moved now.


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - TMKM94 - 09-26-2020

I wonder if Smart Centre has similar ideas for The Laurentian Power Centre on Ottawa Street. It doesn't seem like anything is going to lease the old Target, and Home Outfitters has been closed for awhile now too.


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - KevinL - 09-27-2020

I don't think SmartCentres owns Laurentian, but a redevelopment there would be welcome.


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - neonjoe - 09-27-2020

(09-27-2020, 09:52 AM)KevinL Wrote: I don't think SmartCentres owns Laurentian, but a redevelopment there would be welcome.
They only own part of it https://www.smartcentres.com/property/smartcentres-kitchener-laurentian-mall/


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - KevinL - 09-27-2020

Ah, the mostly-empty back half. Huh.


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - TMKM94 - 09-28-2020

(09-27-2020, 10:01 AM)neonjoe Wrote:
(09-27-2020, 09:52 AM)KevinL Wrote: I don't think SmartCentres owns Laurentian, but a redevelopment there would be welcome.
They only own part of it https://www.smartcentres.com/property/smartcentres-kitchener-laurentian-mall/
Interesting I didn't know that, I guess that's why it's not officially named Smartcentre.


RE: SmartCentre development at Hespeler & Pinebush - Brenden - 09-28-2020

They must have recently purchased that, or recently put it up for sale. I remember seeing the property for sale a few months ago.