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One Hundred | 21 & 17 fl | U/C - Printable Version +- Waterloo Region Connected (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com) +-- Forum: Land Development and Real Estate (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=4) +--- Forum: Urban Areas (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=5) +--- Thread: One Hundred | 21 & 17 fl | U/C (/showthread.php?tid=10) |
Re: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - DHLawrence - 09-16-2014 If memory serves, it will indeed be to the west of Arthur Place. I think it's going to be on the nondescript industrial building's lot. It appears Arthur Place is also being updated per this site. They're renting out individual rooms as well as houses, so I'm guessing it's student-oriented. Re: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - Spokes - 09-18-2014 Council balks at plans to build big September 18, 2014 | Catherine Thompson | Waterloo Region Record | Link Quote:KITCHENER — Plans to encourage higher-density development along the planned LRT route are running into snags at Kitchener council. Re: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - Spokes - 09-18-2014 Well I guess I was wrong, the Arthur Pl owner is the one upset. How does this project affect his properties? There's a road separating them! Anyways, this really annoys me. These are exactly what we need. The planning department is right, both projects should be built. I'm hoping that once the election is over that the elected representatives do what's right for the City long term and approve both of these. What happened to Places to Grow where 40% of all development had to happen in EXISTING AREAS. Re: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - mpd618 - 09-18-2014 Spokes Wrote:Well I guess I was wrong, the Arthur Pl owner is the one upset. How does this project affect his properties? There's a road separating them! My understanding was that the properties are adjacent. And the owner has made it clear: he claims it will affect how much he can intensify his own property. Re: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - panamaniac - 09-18-2014 I am still wondering whether that's a relevant consideration. He could be developing the property today. To see his options limited by his own delay seems to me just the operation of the market. Re: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - TMKM94 - 09-24-2014 IMO Momentum should buy the Arthur place properties, I believe it would benefit them by getting rid of the property line conflict, and they could also expand the building, or have another smaller project like Red condominiums. Re: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - gomesjustin - 09-26-2014 ^ I agree! They are looking pretty drab lately. Could be easily fixed up by a new developer and tied into One Hundred. I like the idea of a smaller maybe 'RED Style' building. Someone should stop that owner and give him a copy of the 'Places to Grow' report. Re: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - Spokes - 09-26-2014 I was always thinking that the properties that were opposed to this were the row houses on the North side of Arthur and this never made sense to me. Looking at the map again, its clearly the five properties on the South side. Not sure what I was thinking. TMKM94 makes a good point, Momentum should definitely look into buying these, but given that the owner owns all five homes, he'll want a significant sum of money I'm guessing. I'd prefer a second project rather than an expanded 100 project. My guess is that as soon as the election is done this goes through. Momentum clearly has a good relationship with council, staff approved this, this is what the City needs. Whatever happens, Arthur Pl needs to be addressed moving forward. This is going to be a major entrance into the Innovation District, and it needs to be interesting. Having the south side of the street with low rise (4 storey) mixed use buildings would create interest fronting the street, and across the street has a lot of potential too. Changing these from residential units to small commercial units would be very interesting. Imagine little shops and restaurants/cafes/pubs in these. Re: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - gomesjustin - 09-26-2014 Well put Spokes! Re: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - nms - 09-26-2014 Perhaps the Arthur St owner is objecting to the apparent "First-come, First-serve" attitude that the neighbouring developer seems to have. The objection seems to be, to paraphrase, "Why is my neighbour able to push the boundaries to make more money when there is a possibility that it will later limit my ability to do the same". The same might be said for any number of variance requests. Presumably, higher density buildings are approved based on staff analysis of the surrounding infrastructure's ability to accomodate. For instance, if one property owner proposed to use up all of the existing infrastructure capacity (water, sewage etc), would the neighbouring property owners be able to complain that their development potential is restricted? Similarly, regardless of density, there are presumably existing building code regulations that must be followed about how close one building can be to another or what provisions must be in place to protect one from the other, like a fire wall. If one property owner expands beyond what they would normally be allowed, their neighbours will be affected with either higher costs or lower ability to expand themselves. Or, for example, if a property owner proposes to go right up against an existing public right-of-way, that will restrict possible future expansion (think of wider sidewalks, bike lanes, transit stops etc). Re: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - panamaniac - 09-26-2014 nms Wrote:Perhaps the Arthur St owner is objecting to the apparent "First-come, First-serve" attitude that the neighbouring developer seems to have. The objection seems to be, to paraphrase, "Why is my neighbour able to push the boundaries to make more money when there is a possibility that it will later limit my ability to do the same". As long as there is ability to accommodate the development and the City staff has exercised due diligence, I'm not sure how anything other than "First come, First served" could apply. This is why I asked a while back whether the objections of the adjoining property owner based on his hypothetical ability to develop his property were even a consideration? I'm not aware of anything official that would have prevented him from developing his property at any time prior to Momentum's applications, so I'm not sure I feel for him. Re: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - zanate - 09-26-2014 panamaniac Wrote:nms Wrote:Perhaps the Arthur St owner is objecting to the apparent "First-come, First-serve" attitude that the neighbouring developer seems to have. The objection seems to be, to paraphrase, "Why is my neighbour able to push the boundaries to make more money when there is a possibility that it will later limit my ability to do the same". I see both your points. But given that a developer can only push the limits of zoning with the City's consent, neighbour concerns need to be carefully considered by the city, whether they're "It'll shade my back yard and kill my begonias" or "I may want to build up this property soon and I'll be constrained by these variances." After all, zoning rules are in place in part to protect the interests of other stakeholders, especially neighbours. RE: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - 519 - 11-14-2014 The promotional sign for this development at the One Victoria Site says that its 65% sold and construction will start in 2015 (It might have said Spring but I was driving and didn't catch the entire message). RE: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - panamaniac - 11-15-2014 The Record is reporting that the revised proposal increases the height of the two towers to 21 and 17 storeys, from 19 and 16, and increases the setback on the Arthur Place side to 12 meters from the originally proposed 1.1 metres. Number of residential units would increase to 306 from 276 and the commercial space would be reduced. Still recommended for approval by council. Anybody seen a render of the revised proposal? RE: One Hundred | 15 fl, 19 fl | Proposed - Spokes - 11-15-2014 They're essentially saying to the city, we'll comply with the setback, if you back us on the height. Smart move. |