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RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - Rainrider22 - 12-26-2018
In the legal world and in alignment with the MTO, Lane one is always the most inward lane to the centre. the rest are numbered out from that...
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - ijmorlan - 12-26-2018
(12-26-2018, 03:43 PM)Rainrider22 Wrote: In the legal world and in alignment with the MTO, Lane one is always the most inward lane to the centre. the rest are numbered out from that...
OK, thanks. I wasn’t sure. So in the interchange we’ve been discussing, I think the King St. lane is Lane 1, the clover leaf onto 7W/8W is Lane 2, and the ramp onto 7E is Lanes 3 and 4.
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - Rainrider22 - 12-26-2018
(12-26-2018, 04:43 PM)ijmorlan Wrote:you are correct my friend ..(12-26-2018, 03:43 PM)Rainrider22 Wrote: In the legal world and in alignment with the MTO, Lane one is always the most inward lane to the centre. the rest are numbered out from that...
OK, thanks. I wasn’t sure. So in the interchange we’ve been discussing, I think the King St. lane is Lane 1, the clover leaf onto 7W/8W is Lane 2, and the ramp onto 7E is Lanes 3 and 4.
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - Spokes - 01-08-2019
(12-24-2018, 07:51 PM)jamincan Wrote: I am hopeful that you're right, Iain, but we see the same lane configuration on Hwy 8N where the ramps from Sportsworld and King continue as new lanes. Nevertheless, most traffic immediately merges left rather than continuing in their lane, significantly slowing the second lane from the left, and leaving the two rightmost lanes almost empty. I'm not sure KW drivers can figure out something as radical as a ramp continuing on as a new lane.
Not to rehash a 2 week old conversation, but I just saw this and this infuriates me. Ugh.
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - Canard - 01-08-2019
Glad to know I’m not alone!
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - jeffster - 01-08-2019
(01-08-2019, 11:39 AM)Spokes Wrote:(12-24-2018, 07:51 PM)jamincan Wrote: I am hopeful that you're right, Iain, but we see the same lane configuration on Hwy 8N where the ramps from Sportsworld and King continue as new lanes. Nevertheless, most traffic immediately merges left rather than continuing in their lane, significantly slowing the second lane from the left, and leaving the two rightmost lanes almost empty. I'm not sure KW drivers can figure out something as radical as a ramp continuing on as a new lane.
Not to rehash a 2 week old conversation, but I just saw this and this infuriates me. Ugh.
You'd think most would have figured this out by now. I do merge to the left, but only because I am travelling fast (I have lead foot syndrome) plus I travel west on the expressway. But for those travelling east on the expressway (or north, depending how you look at it), they need to give their heads a shake.
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - Spokes - 01-09-2019
I just think this is in part a problem of drivers in South Western Ontario. Everyone as often as possible moves to the middle/left. Keeping right except to pass isn't a thing.
It's not uncommon for the left and middle lanes of a 3 lane road to be full while the right is empty.
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - danbrotherston - 01-09-2019
Infuriating or not, as pointed out, this happens for two reasons, first, the design differs from the standard on ramp design, and second, the markings are incorrect and in fact indicate the lane will end. I'll blame drivers for a lot of things, even for things that engineers share some blame, but not this one, this one is 100% on the engineers in my mind.
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - Spokes - 01-09-2019
What is incorrect about the markings?
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - jamincan - 01-09-2019
They show the extra wide and dense stripes that normally indicate a merge zone for a lane that is ending.
I totally understand someone not familiar with the interchange to be confused and expect the lane to end; however, most of the drivers there are likely commuters and don't really have an excuse.
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - danbrotherston - 01-09-2019
(01-09-2019, 11:04 AM)jamincan Wrote: They show the extra wide and dense stripes that normally indicate a merge zone for a lane that is ending.
I totally understand someone not familiar with the interchange to be confused and expect the lane to end; however, most of the drivers there are likely commuters and don't really have an excuse.
I am not a regular commuter, but I use this interchange several times a month, and I'll still have my left blinker on as soon as I see the wide dashed lines and be focused on merging when I realize I don't have too.
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - creative - 01-09-2019
Why would you do that if you have driven here before?
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - danbrotherston - 01-09-2019
(01-09-2019, 02:52 PM)creative Wrote: Why would you do that if you have driven here before?
Because I also drive other places, i.e., this interchange doesn't match the pattern that all other interchanges use.
Same reason I would walk into a door that has a push bar on it, that is actually a pull door.
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - creative - 01-09-2019
So they may have reconstructed the interchange since you last drove there!
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - Canard - 01-09-2019
WTF man, not everyone remembers every single detail of every single place they’ve ever been in their entire life since they were born.
You and I might drive it daily so we remember but if Dan drives once a year it makes sense he’d forget. Chill....