(08-28-2020, 10:56 AM)taylortbb Wrote:

(08-28-2020, 09:48 AM)Momo26 Wrote: Rapid progress indeed. Any retail or anything take up the ground floor space at One Hundred Condos yet?

There's renovations underway for a sleep clinic. I think the pedestrian traffic doesn't quite justify an actual retailer.

(08-28-2020, 12:09 PM)tomh009 Wrote:

(08-28-2020, 10:56 AM)taylortbb Wrote: There's renovations underway for a sleep clinic. I think the pedestrian traffic doesn't quite justify an actual retailer.

Seriously, this is still a good thing. We want "destinations" in DTK: a sleep clinic is an example of that, a specialized facility that people will come to DTK for, even if it's only a relatively small number of people.

(08-28-2020, 12:09 PM)tomh009 Wrote:

(08-28-2020, 10:56 AM)taylortbb Wrote: There's renovations underway for a sleep clinic. I think the pedestrian traffic doesn't quite justify an actual retailer.

Seriously, this is still a good thing. We want "destinations" in DTK: a sleep clinic is an example of that, a specialized facility that people will come to DTK for, even if it's only a relatively small number of people.

(08-28-2020, 11:53 PM)taylortbb Wrote:

(08-28-2020, 12:09 PM)tomh009 Wrote: Seriously, this is still a good thing. We want "destinations" in DTK: a sleep clinic is an example of that, a specialized facility that people will come to DTK for, even if it's only a relatively small number of people.

I think having services like that in DTK is absolutely good, I just think it's an unfortunate use of ground floor space. As it is a specific destination, one doesn't wander in to a sleep clinic while passing by, it could easily be on the second floor.

I think it's sort of like when people bemoan the frontage that banks take up on King St. It's not that banks in DTK aren't an essential service, it's just that they don't really need more street presence than a door.

A sleep clinic, or a bank, is certainly much better than a vacant unit. But unless they focus on landing some landmark tenants it won't be DTK's version of the Bauer buildings.

(08-28-2020, 11:53 PM)taylortbb Wrote:

(08-28-2020, 12:09 PM)tomh009 Wrote: Seriously, this is still a good thing. We want "destinations" in DTK: a sleep clinic is an example of that, a specialized facility that people will come to DTK for, even if it's only a relatively small number of people.

I think having services like that in DTK is absolutely good, I just think it's an unfortunate use of ground floor space. As it is a specific destination, one doesn't wander in to a sleep clinic while passing by, it could easily be on the second floor.

I think it's sort of like when people bemoan the frontage that banks take up on King St. It's not that banks in DTK aren't an essential service, it's just that they don't really need more street presence than a door.

A sleep clinic, or a bank, is certainly much better than a vacant unit. But unless they focus on landing some landmark tenants it won't be DTK's version of the Bauer buildings.

(08-29-2020, 01:31 AM)jeffster Wrote:

(08-28-2020, 11:53 PM)taylortbb Wrote: I think having services like that in DTK is absolutely good, I just think it's an unfortunate use of ground floor space. As it is a specific destination, one doesn't wander in to a sleep clinic while passing by, it could easily be on the second floor.

I think it's sort of like when people bemoan the frontage that banks take up on King St. It's not that banks in DTK aren't an essential service, it's just that they don't really need more street presence than a door.

A sleep clinic, or a bank, is certainly much better than a vacant unit. But unless they focus on landing some landmark tenants it won't be DTK's version of the Bauer buildings.

....

A sleep clinic is as boring as it gets, though one could hope that patients might actually go out with friends before heading to the clinic at night and then grab breakfast locally in the morning. (I've been to a sleep clinic twice, and so I know the routine). I am guessing between patients, and staff at the clinic, you might have 20 or 30 restless souls.

However, on another positive note, this clinic IS close to Communitech, so they might have more advanced options for patients, and I could see this turning into something much larger than first appearance. In a very good way. While I might only be dreaming here (ha ha...sorry. that wasn't meant to be punny), this could really end up putting us on the map. Or maybe I have been listening to too much REM. Kenneth had said it had something to do with our brains frequency.

Sorry.

Anyway, though, I was serious about this becoming larger than life. But perhaps this is just another boring garden variety sleep clinic.

(08-29-2020, 01:22 AM)dtkvictim Wrote:

(08-28-2020, 11:53 PM)taylortbb Wrote: I think having services like that in DTK is absolutely good, I just think it's an unfortunate use of ground floor space. As it is a specific destination, one doesn't wander in to a sleep clinic while passing by, it could easily be on the second floor.

I think it's sort of like when people bemoan the frontage that banks take up on King St. It's not that banks in DTK aren't an essential service, it's just that they don't really need more street presence than a door.

A sleep clinic, or a bank, is certainly much better than a vacant unit. But unless they focus on landing some landmark tenants it won't be DTK's version of the Bauer buildings.

While I generally agree with this (because I like exciting shops!), I don't feel that was ever realistic in the short term. Going back to the point I was making earlier in this thread, Victoria is such an unpleasant street to walk on. I specifically go out of my way to avoid it, and judging from pedestrian traffic I see there, others feel the same way. In my mind, this makes it a location for people to drive to (unless the business is directly serving the condo folks, like a convenience store), and thus not really part of DTK.

I especially feel this way because there are much more walkable, core storefronts in DTK that are sitting empty. This combination of being mildly inconvenient for both drivers (why not just go to a suburban strip mall instead of "downtown"?) and pedestrians (why not walk somewhere more pleasant?) means that it has to be something that people need like a sleep clinic or a bank.