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Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road
(04-03-2021, 08:40 PM)jeffster Wrote: 1) On Sunday I take my mother to her covid-19 shot, finally. She herself is 80, and can't do a lot of walking. Either way, her vaccination will be at The Boardwalk in Waterloo. Problem 1 - we have no local Sunday service in the area, it was cancelled to help pay for the Ion. Problem 2, even if we could get transit (such as taken a later vaccination date), it would be 2 transfers (3 busses), 20 minutes of walking, about about 4 hours of bus travel time. With a car, it's 12 minutes there and 12 minutes back. At the very least, we're saving 4 hours. And likely she couldn't do all the required walking anyway.

The required mobility here isn’t to get to the Boardwalk; it’s to get a Covid-19 shot. If the city were designed for walking and transit, the Covid-19 shots would be available in locations more convenient to be reached by transit.

Quote:2) Say my buddy in Cambridge invites me over to his place after work, in order to go over to a close restaurant from his place. In this case, I can only do this when I have a day shift: Done work at 4:00 -- quickest method of transit gets me home by 4:45. I quickly shower and I am ready to leave by 5. Quickest route to his place gets me there at 7:21. Now, quickest route to the restaurant gets us there at 8:30. Stay for a couple hours, and head back to my place, and I arrive home at 12:20. With a car, I get home a 4:08, leave my place by 4:25, at his place by 4:45, at restaurant by 4:55, leave after two hours, drive him back to his place, 7:05, drive back home, 7:25. That's a 5 hour difference. (For those scenarios, I used the GRT trip planner).

Similarly, there is at least a chance your buddy and/or you would live in a more transit-convenient location. Or maybe work is equipped with showers (originally intended for cyclists), so you shower there and proceed directly on the Ion to the restaurant.

Quote:3) Invited to a relatives or friends that are out of town. It's not happening without a car.

Car share; need I say more?

Quote:Now, if you have suggestions how one can do those above things without a car, I'll listen. But the only thing I can imagine is using a driverless car, and I think that would get expensive quick once it is available.

Cars give a quality of life and options and flexibility and time. Just like in the old times where a horse and buggy would do the same. Hell, with the above cases, a horse and buggy would be quicker every time.

Back to this discussion: do I think we need to widen the road RIGHT NOW? Not really. Between Highway 8 and Hespeler was fine. Between Hespeler and Townline? Probably not. But it's part of their master plan and has been on the books for a long time.

It’s not really about making all current car trips feasible by transit. It’s about designing the city so that transit works for more trips. And it’s not about a sudden revolution where we demolish the entire city (or at least, all the post-1960 suburbs) and rebuild. Rather, we start by doing several things, at a minimum: widen roads only grudgingly and sparingly, rather than enthusiastically, often when the traffic numbers don’t justify it even under the assumption that driving demand must be catered to; eliminate parking minima and allow people to choose how they want to live; dramatically loosen zoning restrictions that arbitrarily and capriciously restrict property use; implement a large carbon fee and dividend, so that costs are internalized to the person making the decision and benefitting from it; and so on.
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RE: Highway 401 Widening - by Canard - 10-28-2014, 12:20 PM
RE: Highway 401 Widening - by JCnb - 10-28-2014, 12:43 PM
RE: Highway 401 Widening - by Markster - 10-28-2014, 01:05 PM
RE: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Townline Road - by ijmorlan - 04-03-2021, 11:16 PM
Re: Highway 401 Widening - by Shawn - 09-01-2014, 06:07 PM
Re: Highway 401 Widening - by Spokes - 09-01-2014, 10:09 PM
Re: Highway 401 Widening - by Waterlooer - 09-02-2014, 11:08 PM
Re: Highway 401 Widening - by DHLawrence - 09-02-2014, 11:16 PM

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