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General Urban Waterloo Updates and Rumours
Things that confuse me: MACA is appealing the approval of a liquor license application for the old Empress of India location. I don't know what's going in there, but across the street from Ethel's, it feels a bit like "we want to live directly next to the bustling core of a major city, we just don't want it to bustle in ways we don't personally use or at times we don't personally use it." Maybe no open windows with loud music pumping into the neighbourhood until 2am? Sure. But it's quite surprising to go after an establishment at the knees, its base ability to function.
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MACA?
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(08-22-2018, 02:40 PM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: Things that confuse me: MACA is appealing the approval of a liquor license application for the old Empress of India location. I don't know what's going in there, but across the street from Ethel's, it feels a bit like "we want to live directly next to the bustling core of a major city, we just don't want it to bustle in ways we don't personally use or at times we don't personally use it." Maybe no open windows with loud music pumping into the neighbourhood until 2am? Sure. But it's quite surprising to go after an establishment at the knees, its base ability to function.

Just out of curiosity, did Empress of India have alcohol (I hope that’s not a dumb question)? I agree that right on King is exactly where you want restaurants etc. and unless the new establishment will be a rowdy bar it doesn’t seem at all reasonable to oppose it.
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MACA - MacGregor Albert Community Association. Primarily homeowners within the King-Bridgeport-Albert-Central catchement. https://www.facebook.com/MACAwaterloo/

I don't know whether Empress had alcohol, but yes, right across the street, definitely.
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(08-22-2018, 02:40 PM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: Things that confuse me: MACA is appealing the approval of a liquor license application for the old Empress of India location. I don't know what's going in there, but across the street from Ethel's, it feels a bit like "we want to live directly next to the bustling core of a major city, we just don't want it to bustle in ways we don't personally use or at times we don't personally use it." Maybe no open windows with loud music pumping into the neighbourhood until 2am? Sure. But it's quite surprising to go after an establishment at the knees, its base ability to function.


Sort of agree... but this will be a country bar by the same owners of Night School. Ethel's has been there for decades, attracts an older crowd, serves food, and never gets too rowdy. I think in this case the residents of one of the most historic neighbourhoods in the city have the right to appeal.
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I think “historic” or “heritage” should be completely irrelevant here, the only thing that matters is whether the licence is appropriate given the surrounding residential neighborhood.
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(08-23-2018, 09:11 AM)urbd Wrote: Sort of agree... but this will be a country bar by the same owners of Night School. Ethel's has been there for decades, attracts an older crowd, serves food, and never gets too rowdy. I think in this case the residents of one of the most historic neighbourhoods in the city have the right to appeal.

Ethel's is a complicated reference, since the neighbourhood really did not want them to be there either. They embraced the constraints on their original license (no live entertainment, one tv) and I think some of today's culture of the bar is a result of that.

That said, I agree that there very much is a difference between a neighbourhood bar and a night club and that is an important consideration.
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I noticed that a few houses on the south side of Erb, between Regina and Gillen have been boarded up.

Perhaps some parcel aggregation for something bigger? Would a pretty narrow re-development as those lots are not very deep.
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