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ION Phase 2 - Cambridge's Light Rail Transit
Quite right -- I really posted that tongue-in-cheek ... Smile
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Seems a generally very anti-Stage 2 LRT group has popped up on facebook - not much to report, with only 52 members. Likely all folks along Eagle (the red sign/shirt peeps):

https://www.facebook.com/groups/100298110502423/
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I've found myself even avoiding driving on Eagle just to dodge the stupid.
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The Phase 2 Engage feedback form is now live and open until December 31st.

https://www.peakdemocracy.com/portals/274/Issue_5649
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Why are people that don't want LRT to run on their street stupid? Because they disagree with you does that mean that they are stupid? Are they not entitled to voice their opinions? You don't have to agree with them but that does not mean that you should be labeling people as unintelligent.
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Yeah, I'd hold back on the ad hominem.
They have opinions, very loud opinions, and those are influenced by their preference for the status quo. I think we'll all make more headway by treating these as rational people.
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(11-18-2017, 02:19 PM)creative Wrote: Why are people that don't want LRT to run on their street stupid? Because they disagree with you does that mean that they are stupid? Are they not entitled to voice their opinions? You don't have to agree with them but that does not mean that you should be labeling people as unintelligent.

They aren’t, necessarily. One has to look at the specific argument to decide if it’s stupid.

For example, one the quiet part of Eagle St., I personally think it’s OK to decide that the LRT needs to go through there, and if I lived there I would welcome it. But it’s perfectly reasonable for somebody living there to be concerned and/or opposed (not exactly the same thing). On the other hand, if they say “because it will increase emissions” then they’re being stupid.

Further east on the same road where it is busy, it’s perfectly reasonable for somebody to be concerned or even opposed because they won’t be able to turn left out of their driveway; but if their complaint is “it will ruin the character of the street”, then they’re being stupid. At least I think so.

Similarly, in Uptown, it’s OK for a business to prefer that parking be kept in front of their store, even though I think we made the right decision by removing some parking to allow LRT to go through. But if somebody north of Erb doesn’t like LRT because of the mess it’s made of King St. in front of their store, then they’re being stupid because that construction has nothing to do with LRT.

So there is lots of room for disagreement that I would consider reasonable, even if I think they’re wrong, but there is also a lot of unreasonable disagreement. I think one of the problems we have is that too many people are sufficiently disconnected from reality that it’s hard to get to the interesting questions that actually need discussion because so many people are saying things that are, to anybody with any basic knowledge (I don’t mean ivory-tower expert basic knowledge that may ignore basic facts, I mean the basic facts themselves), clearly nonsensical. How can we discuss transit when people are writing letters to the editor claiming that passengers will have to load from the street? I could give other examples from just about any topic of political interest.
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How much expropriation does the current preferred route actually involve? Members of that group seem to be under the impression it would require demolishing over 100 homes, and the owners would be so poorly compensated they couldn't afford to live in the community anymore. They also think it would dramatically lower property values in Preston if the LRT passes through Huh
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(11-18-2017, 05:23 PM)Bob_McBob Wrote: How much expropriation does the current preferred route actually involve? Members of that group seem to be under the impression it would require demolishing over 100 homes, and the owners would be so poorly compensated they couldn't afford to live in the community anymore. They also think it would dramatically lower property values in Preston if the LRT passes through Huh

No matter what, I doubt 100 homes will be demolished. It will likely be small strips of land, similar to what was done in KW. There were not many full buyouts on the whole Phase 1 section of the project. Any buyouts either full or partial takings are well compensated for by the Region. Most owners do very well, especially if they are bought out and their home needs to be demolished.
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I can only think of a couple churches, a couple houses, and an apartment building that might need total expropriation. The rest would just be land.
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