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ION Phase 2 - Cambridge's Light Rail Transit
I think those are good points in support of excellent public transit to Conestoga College, but Ion to Cambridge can't serve it. Not directly, anyway.
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(07-13-2017, 08:40 AM)MidTowner Wrote: I think those are good points in support of excellent public transit to Conestoga College, but Ion to Cambridge can't serve it. Not directly, anyway.

I'll start by playing the "subsidy/fairness" game going full force in General Road thread... Wink

There are 3 post-secondary institutions, and two of them are connected to iON.  Tibbits is well within his rights to complain he is being treated differently.  A look at the iON map shows the train starting on King St, going out of the way to the two universities before returning to King St.   (I know this is overly simplistic, and is no different than the "train from mall to mall" argument).... but why can't we make a detour for 45,000 passengers then head on down Fountain into Preston.

Coke

(I would like a spur line added for the airport as well  Wink  )
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(07-13-2017, 09:40 AM)Coke6pk Wrote:
(07-13-2017, 08:40 AM)MidTowner Wrote: I think those are good points in support of excellent public transit to Conestoga College, but Ion to Cambridge can't serve it. Not directly, anyway.

I'll start by playing the "subsidy/fairness" game going full force in General Road thread... Wink

There are 3 post-secondary institutions, and two of them are connected to iON.  Tibbits is well within his rights to complain he is being treated differently.  A look at the iON map shows the train starting on King St, going out of the way to the two universities before returning to King St.   (I know this is overly simplistic, and is no different than the "train from mall to mall" argument).... but why can't we make a detour for 45,000 passengers then head on down Fountain into Preston.

Coke

(I would like a spur line added for the airport as well  Wink  )

I initially thought Conestoga College was way too far out of the way, but what’s wrong with this routing, starting from Fairview:

- Wabanaki
- Manitou
- Homer Watson
- through the campus
- across the 401 and down or parallel to Morningside
- Fountain St.
- across the river
- straight along Eagle St.
- rejoin existing proposed route

I don’t like that it misses the bus terminal at Sportsworld, but that could be relocated, maybe to be directly off the 401 at the College. Maybe the bus terminal could even be the College’s LRT stop, which would also mean they would get direct intercity bus service.

This doesn’t entirely address the Preston issue but the real point I’m trying to examine is whether Conestoga College is really too far out of the way.
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Consider as well that the College is probably the largest transit destination between Kitchener and Cambridge. I wouldn't be surprised if more people go to Conestoga from Kitchener and Cambridge than between Kitchener and Cambridge. If they crossed the 401 at around Morningside, it would be close enough to Conestoga to serve it without going to far out of the way, imo. Not sure how they would route between Sportsworld and Conestoga though without pissing off some golf courses and neighbourhoods.
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Frequent shuttle buses from Conestoga to Sportsworld (and, perhaps, Ainslie termnal) would fill the need, no?
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Lol, well, that would also be one way to completely mess with the multiplex discussion again.
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Well at first I laughed at the thought but routing out that way would spur development and also help deal with all the complaints about the new student ghetto!
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Yes, they would. The only problem with ijmorlan's proposed route is that it does include Hespeler and all the redevelopment potential there. I don't know how big of a problem that is, but I don't think anyone can deny that Hespeler is a preoccupation of the Region.
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(07-13-2017, 11:00 AM)MidTowner Wrote: Yes, they would. The only problem with ijmorlan's proposed route is that it does include Hespeler and all the redevelopment potential there. I don't know how big of a problem that is, but I don't think anyone can deny that Hespeler is a preoccupation of the Region.

I’m not suggesting a change to the Hespeler Road part of the proposal — the idea is it would go across Eagle St. and re-join the existing proposal. That’s why I say it doesn’t address the Preston issue — I have a feeling many of the same people would still have the same complaints.
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Tibbits' argument would be stronger if the students he represents hadn't rejected the option of a universal transit pass.
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