01-11-2024, 04:09 PM
(01-11-2024, 02:59 PM)ac3r Wrote: If our transit system was actually fast, reliable and clean then more people would actually use it. But the majority don't because by and large it's awful. It's a last resort for most people and it's delusional to try and argue otherwise.
Everyone here agreed with you it wasn't fast. You're right, if it was fast, reliable, and clean then people would use it. But the fact it doesn't have more ridership doesn't prove that all three of those are false, just that one of them is (or that the premise is wrong, but I agree with the premise). The falsity of "A and B and C" does not imply that all of A, B, and C are false.
GRT is clean (a lot cleaner that the TTC, MTA, etc, which undeniably have high ridership). Reliability is pretty good (could be better, but again, it's not any worse than the TTC, MTA, etc). But compared to driving it's undeniably slow.
I'd also like to point out that you're moving the goal posts. Your original post was about ION, and as soon as people disputed your claims you changed it to "our transit system". You call people here delusional, but then engage in logical fallacies and goal post moving. You started with a fair point, that ION ridership isn't what it could be, and that we should be working to boost it, but then undermined the whole conversation.