Downtown outdoor spaces

[plam]

Well you and I absolutely agree on that. I'd becurious to know the policies in The Netherlands.  They seem to have highly manicured spaces that are also wild. I don't know how they achieve that.

I think the relationship with the outdoors is quite different in Europe and in North America. In Europe there haven't really been spaces that we perceive as wild for a very long time. On the other hand, in North America, a lot of the land was actually under management by First Nations, but settler society didn't perceive it as so. And then settlers came and tried to import Europe. So it's some sort of mix.

Having said that, in general, I think there is too much grass in North America, especially in places where there shouldn't be grass.