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Ottawa LRT
(01-24-2018, 10:42 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: When will government's learn that secrecy is never a good strategy? People either assume you hiding something bad or you are actually hiding something bad and that's going to come out anyway - probably before they want it to.

Just be upfront. Own your mistakes. Focus on solutions. The public is more forgiving than most think - provided they aren't taken for a ride (and for granted) in the process.

Which secrecy are you referring to?  That they have not yet announced a new date?  Or something else?
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I think it's in the context of Metrolinx not being transparent about its deals with CN/CP.
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(01-25-2018, 03:34 PM)tomh009 Wrote:
(01-24-2018, 10:42 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: When will government's learn that secrecy is never a good strategy? People either assume you hiding something bad or you are actually hiding something bad and that's going to come out anyway - probably before they want it to.

Just be upfront. Own your mistakes. Focus on solutions. The public is more forgiving than most think - provided they aren't taken for a ride (and for granted) in the process.

Which secrecy are you referring to?  That they have not yet announced a new date?  Or something else?


Actually it was this line in the article that I was referring:
Quote:But even when the consortium does give the city a new date, the public won't find out what it is for weeks.

Manconi and other rail officials said they will update council's finance and economic development committee sometime in the first quarter of this year.

There are two finance committees scheduled during the first three months of this year, on Feb. 6 and March 6.


The consortium is going to tell the city, but the city isn't going to publicize for weeks.


On the other hand the city's general manager of transportation was being a little more straightforward:
Quote:"Our assessment — and every indication we have — leads us to believe there's no way they're going to make May 24,"

I'd like to see some of that locally given we are 103 workdays from "late spring" (June 21).
Everyone move to the back of the bus and we all get home faster.
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(01-25-2018, 10:28 PM)Pheidippides Wrote:
(01-25-2018, 03:34 PM)tomh009 Wrote: Which secrecy are you referring to?  That they have not yet announced a new date?  Or something else?


Actually it was this line in the article that I was referring:
Quote:But even when the consortium does give the city a new date, the public won't find out what it is for weeks.

The consortium is going to tell the city, but the city isn't going to publicize for weeks.

I expect that the city staff will take the consortium's date and then build their own schedule based on that. That'll take some time, but they will not want to announce any schedule revisions prematurely.
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Why did the city let the LRT consortium off the hook for $1M?
City officials, including mayor, have been wily about — or didn't know — what contract says



Another example of why P3s aren't always as great as they are made out to be.
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Any contract could seem bad if you don't understand the terms.

In other news, the entire system is not going to be ATO/Automated as was first thought. As it turns out, the driver will operate the train just like any other train for almost the entire line - only in the tunnels for 3 stations will it be ATO (push start button).
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(02-10-2018, 12:55 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: Why did the city let the LRT consortium off the hook for $1M?
City officials, including mayor, have been wily about — or didn't know — what contract says



Another example of why P3s aren't always as great as they are made out to be.

It being a P3 is not the fundamental problem. Not managing the project properly is the problem. If you negotiate a good contract and you manage it well, P3 can work just fine. The same is true for any private company outsourcing a project: managed badly, it will be a disaster, managed well, it can be as good as or better than doing the project internally.

And, yes, if you don't have the desire or capability to manage the outsourcing project, you simply shouldn't do it.
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Chris Drew has created a facebook event to plan opening day!

https://www.facebook.com/events/18893615...48/?ti=icl
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