Grocery Stores

[Chris]

Seeing people there means people walk there, it doesn't mean it is walkable. You are actually talking about some of the most dangerous places in the city, places that are unwalkable, but places where a large portion of people do walk for various reasons.

This reminds me of something I observed on Victoria years ago. I can’t remember where, but it was further out where there are no sidewalks. In the winter, there are little trails packed down in the snow running from one business to the next. So even in an aggressively hostile environment designed with the assumption that everybody will drive everywhere, there are still people who walk from one business to the next. I wonder how many car trips would be avoided if the walk was more pleasant? Not necessarily even an ideal comfortable walk — just a walk on a smooth straight sidewalk.

In my experience there are desire lines on Victoria extend from Bruce to Frederick with a really poor patch work of pedestrian infra in that stretch. I think the only place on this stretch that qualifies as a grocery store would the American Latina although Valumart isn't far at the Frederick mall. I didn't go to the Westin's outlet more than a couple times but it seemed super popular and it was sad to see them close it.

Bruce
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.462621,-...312!8i6656

Frederick
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4662387,...312!8i6656