09-13-2016, 04:29 PM
(09-13-2016, 04:00 PM)zanate Wrote:(09-13-2016, 01:14 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: First of all, multi-use trails do not have to intersect with streets at crosswalks....they may simply intersect streets with no provisions whatsoever, as they do for most Iron Horse Trail intersections.
If they're alongside a street and cross another street, they're generally treated as crosswalks. Whether they have to or not? That's a good question.
Yes, boulevard trails generally have crosswalks, and generally drivers are required to yield to peds because it's a controlled intersection. But here, I think, crossrides are permitted, at least those are the designs I saw for crossrides. I think it is only PXOs which don't have provisions for crossrides.
But I was intending to mean midblock crossings as part of non boulevard MUTs.
(09-13-2016, 04:00 PM)zanate Wrote: OK, interesting idea. I hadn't pulled out that distinction.
Yes, this is an interesting idea lol. It's one of these rare legal thought experiments, that might just make sense in practice.
(09-13-2016, 04:00 PM)zanate Wrote: I shouldn't have said with such certainty that they're a first. But, I'm not sure what the rules were in Toronto in 1980, whether there was municipal bylaw in effect, whether anything was deliberately changed since then. What we have crosswalks away from intersections now, though, there isn't an obligation for cars to stop unless there's an activated signal.
My impression is this is when L1 PXOs were introduced. I would guess there is some correlation there.
(09-13-2016, 04:00 PM)zanate Wrote: More pedestrian refuges are something that I've seen a lot of buy-in lately from local staff and politicians. And they're hard not to like-- the region itself quotes "as much as 80%" reduction in collisions as a result. We're seeing more and more and I expect that to continue. There's locations on Spur Line trail that would benefit from an island (like Union!)
Yes, pedestrian refuges are hard not to like, yet somehow the residents of Westheights Dr. managed. Go figure.