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Homer Watson and Ottawa Three Lane Roundabouts
#21
(01-23-2015, 10:05 AM)timio Wrote: The issue with that is the MTO refuses to standardize any regulations regarding their use...
Why is that? What are they waiting for (<sarcasm>some threshold in deaths and injuries</sarcasm>)?

Shouldn't such standardization and promulgation be in their mandate?
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#22
From The Record


Quote:WATERLOO REGION — Are you baffled by roundabouts? Don't look to Ontario traffic law — it says nothing about them.


That's OK with Transportation Minister Glen Murray, who refuses to write roundabout rules into the Highway Traffic Act even as driving practices differ.  "I am confident the act already provides the necessary guidance to drivers in roundabouts," Murray recently wrote, rejecting a roundabout law proposed by Kitchener-Conestoga MPP Michael Harris.
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#23
I realize that. I even linked to Harris' bill above. What baffles me is why MTO is feeding this nonsense to their minister.
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#24
(01-23-2015, 09:17 AM)REnerd Wrote:
(01-22-2015, 09:39 AM)BuildingScout Wrote: Roundabouts have been for about the last fifteen years the fashionable trend among urban planners. Therefore they are dropped willy-nilly anywhere and everywhere whether they make sense or not.

I think you should say ... been around in the Waterloo Region.  They've been around far longer than that in general.

While they have been around for very long, outside of England they were frowned upon from the late 70s until the early 90s.


In the late 90s we saw a revival both in Europe and NorthAmerica, first slowly and now raising to the present state where city municipalities are building them in intersections where they are not a clear win over a standard traffic light.
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#25
In the graphic at the head of this thread, traffic sometimes backs up down the on-ramp to the Connestoga parkway (lower right corner)... what happens if it backs up into (and through) the roundabout? Will it come to a standstill and jam up? I can't think of a scenario in the Region where that's happened before - maybe sometimes along Ira Needles?
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#26
There's a clear advantage for roundabouts: way less people die in collisions when they happen. They also happen to cost a lot less over the life of the intersection. I don't care if people have to wait at rush hour, it's always going to be like that if people insist on living the suburban car-culture life. The expressway is still packed at rush hour even though they've been adding lanes like crazy. I've been driving down H-W to get to the expressway or Hamilton when I have to work and it's pretty smooth sailing even through that "horrible" roundabout at Block Line. All the other intersections are places I've had more close calls with assholes that insist on running yellows and red lights.
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#27
(01-23-2015, 08:41 PM)Canard Wrote: In the graphic at the head of this thread, traffic sometimes backs up down the on-ramp to the Connestoga parkway (lower right corner)... what happens if it backs up into (and through) the roundabout?  Will it come to a standstill and jam up?  I can't think of a scenario in the Region where that's happened before - maybe sometimes along Ira Needles?

Ira Needles backs up because it was (until a couple months ago) two lanes, not because of the roundabouts. Now that it's four lanes, traffic flies through.
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#28
(01-22-2015, 02:39 AM)BuildingScout Wrote: I grew up in a country where roundabouts are common. In my experience they work best for low volume intersections and they quickly become a nightmare for busy ones. I've waited for over 5 minutes at rush hour when traveling westbound on Erb St at Ira Needles because northbound traffic on Ira Needles was relentless.

Often in the U.K., when traffic flow becomes bogged down in one or both directions because of high traffic volumes, you will see traffic signals added to the roundabouts ... 
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#29
Maybe I'm imagining things, but I can't seem to find the project pdf for the Homer Watson a do Alpine roundabouts on either the current or future construction pages.

http://www.regionofwaterloo.ca/en/gettin...ojects.asp

I've looked at it multiple times in the past but it doesn't seem to be there anymore? Does anyone have a copy of it?
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#30
(10-09-2015, 08:20 PM)GtwoK Wrote: Maybe I'm imagining things, but I can't seem to find the project pdf for the Homer Watson a do Alpine roundabouts on either the current or future construction pages.

http://www.regionofwaterloo.ca/en/gettin...ojects.asp

I've looked at it multiple times in the past but it doesn't seem to be there anymore? Does anyone have a copy of it?

It's there under Ottawa Street, Elmsdale Drive to Imperial Drive, Kitchener.

http://www.regionofwaterloo.ca/en/gettin...oSheet.pdf

https://icreate3.esolutionsgroup.ca/2306...11-008.pdf
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