General Road and Highway Discussion

[plam]

Sometimes I wonder if the serious cyclists preference for mixing bicycle and automobile traffic actually creates an impediment for separated bike lanes as opposed to the lanes we have now by promoting the idea that it's natural for bikes to mix in and out of vehicle traffic. Like would you get sideways glances in the Netherlands if you showed them the lanes we have on busy streets such as University and Erb?

That would be crazy in 2010s Netherlands, but not in 1960s Netherlands. They made a lot of effort to make things more bicycle-friendly.

Vehicular cycling is a terrible unfriendly idea and the people behind that are actively against separated bicycle lanes (they have taken cities to court over it).